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<div dir="ltr">(Great) Clacton has a chime of 6, formerly a ring of 5 and (Little) Clacton a ring of 3, also a chime of 4 at Clacton on Sea and a number of single bells so not quite bellless.<div><br></div><div>David Sloman</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Richard Smith <a href="mailto:richard@ex-parrot.com">richard@ex-parrot.com</a> [bellhistorians] <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><span class="">'Andrew Bull' <a href="mailto:a_m_bull@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">a_m_bull@yahoo.co.uk</a> [bellhistorians] wrote:<br>
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> For some reason my post keeps getting removed from my message, so I'll<br>
> resort to top posting!<br>
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All three got through fine with the content bottom posted on <br>
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> There's another issue about tenor weights for historic peals, of which the<br>
> above case is a good example.<br>
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> Warner's did indeed quote 39-3-10 for their replacement tenor bell at Pier<br>
> Head. However, when it was weighed at Loughborough prior to scrapping, it<br>
> turned the scales at only 36-0-22, so the "official" weight was much<br>
> inflated. Which weight should be used for peals 1911-1952? Dobson quoted<br>
> 41-0-14 for the tenor of the 1814 twelve.<br>
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This is something BellBoard ought to have a policy on, but <br>
currently we don't.<br>
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My view is that because BellBoard is a database of <br>
performances rather than a database of tower or bells, we <br>
should record the performance as the ringers would have <br>
wished it to have been recorded at the time, so far as we <br>
can tell. So far as I'm aware, it was widely believed that <br>
the Warner tenor at Pier Head was 39¾ cwt, and I think I <br>
recall seeing peal boards there recording the tenor as that <br>
weight. I think that means BellBoard should show the tenor <br>
as 39¾ or 39-3-10 or whatever they believed at the time. <br>
Obviously that doesn't mean copying every typo: if there's a <br>
record of Pier Head with a 93 cwt tenor, someone has <br>
doubtless transposed the digits and it should be corrected.<br>
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At some point I hope someone will produce a comprehensive <br>
database of historical bells and rings; if and when that <br>
happens, I'd be keen to link BellBoard to it. It's the job <br>
of that database to record that Warners supplied it at <br>
39-3-10 but when Taylors scrapped it, it was only 36-0-22, <br>
and quite possibly take a view on which is the more accurate <br>
figure.<br>
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