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<div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>David’s generously comprehensive and prompt reply is much appreciated and moves my editing of the CBC data forward significantly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I will pursue his gentle “commercial advert” off-line – in truth I had forgotten about it!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#A6A6A6;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Phil Watts<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:red;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Bells Advisor, Winchester Diocesan Advisory Committee for the Care of Churches<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:red;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tel: 023 8025 2015 E-mail: pag.watts@btinternet.com<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com <bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> 31 October 2018 00:10<br><b>To:</b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bell Historians] Bells on Jersey and CBC Database project.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div id=ygrp-mlmsg><div id=ygrp-msg><div id=ygrp-text><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Now, Phil, surely the best thing to do would be to refer to “Church Bells of the Channel Islands” by me and Fred Sharpe, published by your own Association and still available!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>You are perfectly correct in saying that there are three Anglican Churches (I take it that you are only referring to Anglican Churches) dedicated to St Martin in Jersey. They are those which you mention:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><u><span style='color:#1F497D'>1. St Martin,</span></u><span style='color:#1F497D'> S Martin le Vieux Parish Church. 1 bell 40.25” 12-3-18, badly cracked. Lester & Pack 1768. 6 plain canons. Not turned. Full details & photo on p.50 of my book.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><u><span style='color:#1F497D'>2. St Martin, </span></u><span style='color:#1F497D'>Gorey, S. Martin de Gouray. 1 bell 30” diameter 5-cwt. John Warner & Sons Ltd 1895. 4 Doncaster canons. Not turned. Full details on p.51</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><u><span style='color:#1F497D'>3. Grouville,</span></u><span style='color:#1F497D'> S Martin de Grouville. 1 bell 43” diameter 14-cwt. Adolphe Havard, Villedieu 1881 (replacing the 1768 bell). 6 ornate canons. Not turned. Full details on p.22 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>The underlined name is the name of the administrative parish, and as Phil says, it is rather confusing that the church at Gorey, in St Martin’s Parish, is dedicated to S. Martin.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>The chapel-of-ease to Grouville, at S Pierre la Rocque which you mention, does have a bell c14” diameter by Warner 1852 (early for them).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yes, the CBC spreadsheet has become a bit muddled with his list (George will no doubt blast me for saying so). The list above should assist in rectifying, but please don’t hesitate to get directly in touch – <a href="mailto:davidl.cawley@btinternet,com">davidl.cawley@btinternet,com</a> or ring me on 01227 479871.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>David</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a> [<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 30 October 2018 20:15<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Bell Historians] Bells on Jersey and CBC Database project.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div id=ygrp-mlmsg><div id=ygrp-msg><div id=ygrp-text><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Please could anyone with good knowledge of the church bells of Jersey assist me in clarifying some entries in one of the CBC Bells Database spreadsheets I am working through for the project initiated by Graham Pledger earlier this year.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>My understanding is that there are three churches dedicated to St. Martin in Jersey:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>St Martin (a.k.a. St Martin le Vieux) – the ancient parish church of St Martin’s Parish – one of the twelve administrative parishes of the Island;<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>St Martin de Gouray – in the village or Gorey, which confusingly happens to be in St. Martin’s Parish (above);<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>St Martin de Grouville – the parish church of Grouville Parish, another of the twelve ancient parishes.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>However the CBC spreadsheet (sourced from George Dawson) has four entries:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=1309 style='width:981.8pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:12.75pt'><td width=81 nowrap style='width:60.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Winchester</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=68 nowrap style='width:51.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>CARE</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=61 nowrap style='width:45.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=89 nowrap style='width:66.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=148 nowrap style='width:111.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Jersey</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=163 nowrap style='width:122.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>St Martin le Vieux</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=75 nowrap style='width:56.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1 of 1</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=83 nowrap style='width:62.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>6</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=49 nowrap style='width:36.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>30</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=63 nowrap style='width:47.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=47 nowrap style='width:35.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1895</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=174 nowrap style='width:130.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>John Warner & Sons</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=100 nowrap style='width:75.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:12.75pt'><td width=81 nowrap style='width:60.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Winchester</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=68 nowrap style='width:51.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>CARE</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=61 nowrap style='width:45.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=89 nowrap style='width:66.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=148 nowrap style='width:111.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Jersey</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=163 nowrap style='width:122.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>St Martin de Grouville</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=75 nowrap style='width:56.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1 of 1</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=83 nowrap style='width:62.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Yes</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>6</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=49 nowrap style='width:36.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>43</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=63 nowrap style='width:47.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=47 nowrap style='width:35.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1881</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=174 nowrap style='width:130.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>A Havard</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=100 nowrap style='width:75.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:12.75pt'><td width=81 nowrap style='width:60.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Winchester</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=68 nowrap style='width:51.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>CARE</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=61 nowrap style='width:45.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>41/410</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=89 nowrap style='width:66.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=148 nowrap style='width:111.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Jersey</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=163 nowrap style='width:122.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>St Martin</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=75 nowrap style='width:56.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1 of 1</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=83 nowrap style='width:62..25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Yes</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>6</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=49 nowrap style='width:36.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>40.25</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=63 nowrap style='width:47.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>12.3.18</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=47 nowrap style='width:35.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1769</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=174 nowrap style='width:130.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12..75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Lester & Pack, crack, Insc</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=100 nowrap style='width:75.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>DLC 9/99<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:12.75pt'><td width=81 nowrap style='width:60.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9..0pt'>Winchester</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=68 nowrap style='width:51.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>CARE</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=61 nowrap style='width:45.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>41/409</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=89 nowrap style='width:66.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=148 nowrap style='width:111.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Jersey</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=163 nowrap style='width:122.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>St Martin, Gouray<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=75 nowrap style='width:56.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1 of 1</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=83 nowrap style='width:62.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=49 nowrap style='width:36.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=63 nowrap style='width:47.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=47 nowrap style='width:35.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=174 nowrap style='width:130.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=100 nowrap style='width:75.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>NB: There are also entries for St Peter La Roque and La Hougue Bie Chapels in Gorey, which are not part of this enquiry.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On-line sources for the three churches above give:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'>St Martin (le Vieux): <a href="https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Official_history_of_St_Martin%27s_Parish_Church">https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Official_history_of_St_Martin%27s_Parish_Church</a> : “<span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:black'>In 1768 the present bell was bought. It was still the custom to name church bells. This one was stamped in French: "I, Martin, for St Martin, have been founded in London in 1768.. Lester and Poch [<i>sic</i>] made me. I weigh <u>12 cwt 3 qr 18 lb</u>" Lester and Poch's Whitechapel Foundry had a worldwide reputation. It sent bells to Russia, Germany and America. The 70 cwt bell for Canterbury Cathedral was made by them. The St Martin's bell has four coins of George II welded on it.”</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'>St Martin de Gouray: <a href="https://www.stmartindegouraychurchjersey.co.uk/the-history-of-gouray-church">https://www.stmartindegouraychurchjersey.co.uk/the-history-of-gouray-church</a> : “The tower has a clock and contains one bell cast by John Warner and Sons in London in 1895”..<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'>St Martin de Grouville: <a href="https://www.theislandwiki..org/index.php/History_of_Grouville_Parish_Church">https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/History_of_Grouville_Parish_Church</a> : “The<span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:black'> bell is one of the finest in the Island and bears the inscription: </span><i><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>J'ai este faite fondre a Londres par les paroissiens de Grouville an 1768 je paze <u>14 cwt 1 qr 2 lb.</u> Ch de la Garde, Rector. Thos Labey, Constable. Frances Marett, Jean Hooper, Survts. Lester and Pack of London, fecit</span></i><span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:black'>.”</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>[The underlining is mine]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Allowing for some lay misinterpretation of bellfounders names and bell inscription casting details, these histories suggest the entries in the CBC spreadsheet should read:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=1219 style='width:914.1pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:12.75pt'><td width=81 nowrap style='width:60.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Winchester</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=68 nowrap style='width:51.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>CARE</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=61 nowrap style='width:45.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:center'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>41/402</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=89 nowrap style='width:66.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=148 nowrap style='width:111.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Jersey</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=163 nowrap style='width:122.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>St Martin le Vieux</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=75 nowrap style='width:56.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1 of 1</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=83 nowrap style='width:62.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>6</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=49 nowrap style='width:36.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>40.25</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=63 nowrap style='width:47.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>12.3.18</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1768/9</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=175 nowrap style='width:131.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Lester & Pack, crack, Insc</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:12.75pt'><td width=81 nowrap style='width:60.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Winchester</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=68 nowrap style='width:51.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>CARE</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=61 nowrap style='width:45.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:center'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>41/409</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=89 nowrap style='width:66.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=148 nowrap style='width:111.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Jersey</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=163 nowrap style='width:122.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>St Martin de Gouray</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=75 nowrap style='width:56.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1 of 1</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=83 nowrap style='width:62.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=49 nowrap style='width:36.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>30</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=63 nowrap style='width:47.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>C</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1895</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=175 nowrap style='width:131.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>John Warner & Sons</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:12.75pt'><td width=81 nowrap style='width:60.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Winchester<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=68 nowrap style='width:51.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>CARE</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=61 nowrap style='width:45.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:center'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>41/410</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=89 nowrap style='width:66.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=148 nowrap style='width:111.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Jersey</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=163 nowrap style='width:122.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>St Martin de Grouville</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=75 nowrap style='width:56.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1 of 1</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=83 nowrap style='width:62.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=49 nowrap style='width:36.75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=63 nowrap style='width:47.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>14.1.2</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=55 nowrap style='width:41.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>1768</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=175 nowrap style='width:131.25pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Lester & Pack</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>However this doesn’t explain the reference to the 1881 A Havard (Villedieu) bell or where it is, or validate two Lester and Pack bells of the same date but different weights – unless the Grouville bell was recast in 1881 and the church history doesn’t record that recasting?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Can anyone please shed light on the situation? (My DAC has no role in the Channel Islands).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thx.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Phil<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='color:#A6A6A6'>Phil Watts</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='color:red'>Bells Advisor, Winchester Diocesan Advisory Committee for the Care of Churches</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='color:red'>Tel: 023 8025 2015 E-mail: <a href="mailto:pag.watts@btinternet.com">pag.watts@btinternet.com</a></span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>
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