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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The 16” bell was cast 11/1/1906. More t/f.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>G<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bell-historians [mailto:bell-historians-bounces@lists.ringingworld.co.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl S Zimmerman<br><b>Sent:</b> 07 February 2020 22:05<br><b>To:</b> Bell Historians Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bell Historians] Bournville Carillon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Yes, it does! Clearly my compilation was based on incomplete information, and I shall have to revise it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Thanks, Mike!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Carl <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="ydpbcc05c95yahoo_quoted_1682017341"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>On Friday, February 7, 2020, 3:17:17 PM CST, Mike Chester <mikechester@hotmail.com> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Does this help?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://warksbells.co.uk/index.php/others/chimes/bell-chimes/carillons/bournville" target="_blank">http://warksbells.co.uk/index.php/others/chimes/bell-chimes/carillons/bournville</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845yqt98367><div id=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> Bell-historians <bell-historians-bounces@lists.ringingworld.co.uk> on behalf of Carl S Zimmerman <csz_stl@swbell.net><br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 7, 2020 8:43:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bell Historians Mailing List <bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bell Historians] Bournville Carillon</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>The original installation of 22 bells in 1906 started from a bass bell with note F, which would be the smallest of the four that Bill described. It is the only remaining 1906 bell in the present carillon.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>The 1923 enlargement to 37 bells added two bass semitones plus an octave of trebles; the 1906 bass remained unchanged.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>The 1925 enlargement to 42 bells added the three heavier bells that Bill described plus two trebles. I have no information as to whether any of the 1923 bells were replaced at this time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>The 1934 enlargement to 48 bells included replacing everything except the four bells that Bill described.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Bill, I look forward to your presentation at the GCNA Congress in June. I hope that you plan to stay for the WCF Congress as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Carl Scott Zimmerman, Campanologist <br>Saint Louis, Missouri, USA -<br> - 19th c. home of at least 37 bell founders or resellers <br>Tel. +1(314)821-8437 <br>Webmaster for www.TowerBells.org<br> * Avocation: tower bells<br> * Recreation: handbells<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> * Mission: church bells<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydp73140da6pasted-link><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Webmaster for www.TSCChapter134.org</span></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845x_ydpd4d23b12yahoo_quoted_1657142904"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>On Friday, February 7, 2020, 2:13:23 PM CST, Bill Hibbert <bill@hibberts.co.uk> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845x_ydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371"><div><div><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Alan Buswell recently sent me tuning figures for the Bournville Carillon, including G&J’s measurements on the four Taylor bells, none of which were tuned by G&J. I had hoped to work out the casting dates of the Taylor bells from the J&J figures but have failed – they all have just tierces bar one. My Taylor carillon catalogue is dated (I think) 1927, after the first remodelling by Taylors in 1925, so doesn’t help. Does anyone know the casting dates of the four bells in question? One is 1906, the rest are 1925:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>46” 17-2-10 in F<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>48 5/8” 22-1-2 in E<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>54 3/16” 30-3-2 in D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>60 3/8” 40-3-14 in C<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>I hope to visit the carillon soon, so could probably just go and look, unless anyone has the answer immediately to hand!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>The background to this is that I am planning a talk to the GCNA congress in June and am collecting and analysing a lot of data in preparation for the talk.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Bill H<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpbcc05c95yiv6748474845xydpd4d23b12yiv3400102371msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>Bell-historians mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk" target="_blank">Bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk</a><br><a href="https://lists.ringingworld.co.uk/listinfo/bell-historians" target="_blank">https://lists.ringingworld.co.uk/listinfo/bell-historians</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=ydpbcc05c95yqt75390><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>Bell-historians mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk" target="_blank">Bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk</a><br><a href="https://lists.ringingworld.co.uk/listinfo/bell-historians" target="_blank">https://lists.ringingworld.co.uk/listinfo/bell-historians</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>