<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /> </head> <body><div class="auto-created-dir-div" dir="auto" style="unicode-bidi: embed;"><style>p{margin:0}</style><br><br><blockquote style="margin: 0px auto; padding: 0px 2em; border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 173, 229);"><br><br></blockquote><blockquote style="margin: 0px auto; padding: 0px 2em; border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 173, 229);"><br><div class="auto-created-dir-div" dir="auto" style="unicode-bidi: embed;"><br><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Thoughts about the Auckland and Inveraray postings.</span></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin: 0px auto; padding: 0px 2em; border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 173, 229);"><div class="auto-created-dir-div" dir="auto" style="unicode-bidi: embed;"><blockquote style="white-space: pre-wrap; margin: 0px auto; padding: 0px 2em; border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 173, 229);"><br><div class="auto-created-dir-div" dir="auto" style="unicode-bidi: embed;">I'm not sure how to play this one. Although the long-term intention was to hang the great Inveraray Bells for ringing, there was no facility for anything more than hanging them as a chime (of which the Duke was very proud and used to show it off to his guests).<div><p>So it's a case here, I think, of chime to ring, the intention applying to the latter.</p><p><br></p><p>Re Auckland, it all depends on exactly how they were hung at Bishopscourt. If they were hung as a chime, it would be a simple case of chime to ring; if they were hung (even if not rung) for ringing, it could be a transfer.</p><p><br></p><p>DLC </p><p><br></p><p> </p><br><blockquote style="margin: 0 auto;padding: 0 2.0em;border-left: 2.0px solid rgb(0,173,229);"><br><br>------ Original Message ------<br>From: "David Kelly" <<span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">david@thekloof.co.uk</span><span></span></span><span></span>><br>To: "Tim Jackson" <tim@timjackson.email>; "Nick Bowden" <<span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">nickwbowden@talktalk.net</span><span></span></span><span></span>>; "David Cawley" <<span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">davidl.cawley@btinternet.com</span><span></span></span><span></span>><br>Cc: "Mike Chester" <<span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">mikechester@hotmail.com</span><span></span></span><span></span>><br>Sent: Wednesday, 25 Mar, 2020 At 11:40<br>Subject: FW: Bishop Selwyn's Bells<br><br><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">David, Nick & Tim,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Do you think Inveraray should be included in the “Chimes to Rings” list?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Dave</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p><div><div style="border: none;border-top: solid rgb(225,225,225) 1.0pt;padding: 3.0pt 0.0cm 0.0cm 0.0cm;"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Mike Chester <<span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">mikechester@hotmail.com</span><span></span></span><span></span></span><span></span>> <br><b>Sent:</b> 25 March 2020 11:37<br><b>To:</b> David Kelly <<span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">david@thekloof.co.uk</span><span></span></span><span></span></span><span></span>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Bishop Selwyn's Bells</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;">That was quick!</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;">Andrew Aspland points out that Inveraray were hung at ground level between 1921 when they were transported to Scotland, (they were cast the previous year), and 1931 while the tower was built. They were then hung as a ring.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;">Mike</span></p></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center;"><hr></div><div id="divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="color: black;"> David Kelly <<a href="mailto:david@thekloof.co.uk"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">david@thekloof.co.uk</span><span></span></span><span></span></span><span></span></a>><br><b>Sent:</b> 25 March 2020 11:27<br><b>To:</b> 'Mike Chester' <<a href="mailto:mikechester@hotmail.com"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">mikechester@hotmail.com</span><span></span></span><span></span></span><span></span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Bishop Selwyn's Bells</span> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div><div><p class="xmsonormal">Mike,</p><p class="xmsonormal"> </p><p class="xmsonormal">Many thanks for this. The “Chimes to rings” spreadsheet has been updated and shown as a transfer of a chime from Holy Trinity Cathedral to St Matthew’s, Auckland.</p><p class="xmsonormal"> </p><p class="xmsonormal">Regards</p><p class="xmsonormal">Dave</p><p class="xmsonormal"> </p><div><div style="border: none;border-top: solid rgb(225,225,225) 1.0pt;padding: 3.0pt 0.0cm 0.0cm 0.0cm;"><p class="xmsonormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Mike Chester <<a href="mailto:mikechester@hotmail.com"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">mikechester@hotmail.com</span><span></span></span><span></span></span><span></span></a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> 25 March 2020 10:01<br><b>To:</b> 'David Kelly' <<a href="mailto:david@thekloof.co.uk"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">david@thekloof.co.uk</span><span></span></span><span></span></span><span></span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Fw: Bishop Selwyn's Bells</span></p></div></div><p class="xmsonormal"> </p><div><p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;">I started a conversation about Auckland, NZ,on Bellhistorians, and it seems pretty certain that these bells are a chime that has been transferred and converted into a ring.</span></p></div><div><p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;">The original information came from here <a href="https://www.stmatthews.nz/bishop-selwyns-bells" target="_blank">https://www.stmatthews.nz/bishop-selwyns-bells</a></span></p></div><div><p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;">Regards</span></p></div><div><p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;">Mike</span></p></div><div><div><p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;color: black;"> </span></p></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center;"><hr></div><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="color: black;"> Alan Glover <<a href="mailto:amglover407@outlook.com"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">amglover407@outlook.com</span><span></span></span><span></span></span><span></span></a>><br><b>Sent:</b> 25 March 2020 09:56<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:mikechester@hotmail.com"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">mikechester@hotmail.com</span><span></span></span><span></span></span><span></span></a> <<a href="mailto:mikechester@hotmail.com"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email"><span class="wt_Email">mikechester@hotmail.com</span><span></span></span><span></span></span><span></span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Bishop Selwyn's Bells</span> </p><div><p class="xmsonormal"> </p></div></div><div><div><p class="xmsonormal"> </p><p class="xmsonormal">Hello Mike,</p><p class="xmsonormal"> </p><p class="xmsonormal">The CC Library has an undated, unsigned, duplicated sheet with the title ‘Bishop Selwyn’s Bells.’ This states, ‘For around forty years, they hung in the wooden tower of Bishopscourt, Parnell. In this situation, they could be merely chimed.’</p><p class="xmsonormal"> </p><p class="xmsonormal">In ‘Their sound has gone forth’ (2001), Elizabeth Bleby writes, ‘The bells were hung in a wooden tower at Bishopscourt in Parnell, Auckland. They could not be rung full circle in that tower, but there was a chiming machine.’</p><p class="xmsonormal"> </p><p class="xmsonormal">Best wishes,</p><p class="xmsonormal"> </p><p class="xmsonormal">AlanGlover</p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></body></html>