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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/07/2020 08:43, Chris Pickford via
Bell-historians wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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to my email yesterday about the AHS turret clock database, I
contacted Andy Burdon (the database manager) who says that
anyone can request access for research purposes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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you want to access the database, then email </span><span
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href="mailto:admin@ahstcg.org" moz-do-not-send="true">admin@ahstcg.org</a>
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request a login stating if you require access for research
(i.e. viewing) or to add details (ability to add or edit)</span>.</span><span
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Andy </span><span
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“</span><span
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would really like to get bells people more interested in
entering info about turret clocks into the database rather
than duplicate information across both databases”. I would
certainly echo that</span><span
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<p>I recognise the 1,000's of hours of volunteer effort by the
existing Dove team. Thank you to those people (who have always
provided excellent 'service' compared to many commercial
organisations) & the current team. <br>
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<p>I would not expect to ask an existing or future Dove volunteer
for details re say 10 or 100 churches - I would like direct access
to the log of historical records / changes to the database content
to see what changed & the source.<br>
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<p>Chris states that clock detail should reside in the AHS database
- I agree.</p>
<p>I expect 90% of those interested in bells are not interested in
clocks but some are (I assume we don't know how many?)<br>
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<p>Could there be a link from the Dove entry to the AHS database
record for that building? So if I looked at Hilmarton church on
Dove I could click a link direct to the AHS record to read the
record re the clock etc in that church? Also from AHS to Dove?<br>
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<p>I'm not clear re: <br>
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<p>What is the scope of the new Dove listing bells in churches? Any
bell of any size whether mounted on a frame in a belfry or not? <br>
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<p>Are tune playing drums etc listed by AHS? If not, is there a
record elsewhere? (Dove is not the 'home'.)<br>
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<p>Ellacombes?<br>
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<p>Is the intention that AHS database lists all clock hammers etc.
& nothing on Dove? So a bell frame having clock hammers bolted
to it would not list those hammers in the Dove records? (Makes
sense to me.)</p>
<p>What happens where bells can be sounded by automated hammers
using more modern electrical/electronic control? Are those
hammers & mechanisms listed anywhere? I can't see a need for
Dove to list the details of how they are sounded, does AHS list
them?<br>
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<p>A church tower with 1or more bell used only for a clock - list in
Dove? Which buildings?<br>
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<p>A ring of 2 bells (Foxham) - list in Dove?</p>
<p>Where precise nominals are known a Bill Hibbert type summary
(similar to those used by Dickon) of how well they conform to a
mode of tuning? Can this be automated?<br>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Ken<br>
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