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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>MRTH - </span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> I remember their attitude towards the bells at Catworth,
Cambridgeshire, they said that a peal of bells which contained two bells of the
same note would make a "characterful ring" - this resulted in a fine
sounding medieval bell being removed from the peal and hung dead along
side. They have recently written to the parish of South Wraxall, in Wiltshire,
stating that they not support some minimal tuning of the 3 of the 6 bells, to
bring them into a true musical scale. Hopefully the chancellor has seen sense
on this one...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I despair when it comes to the attitude
of some of these bodies regarding retuning of old bells. They do not seem to
understand that there are “good” old bells which are good enough
to leave untuned, “decent” old bells which can be improved by
minimal retuning whilst retaining their character, and “bad” old
bells which need retuning. There was an extraordinary episode in South Wales
concerning Michaelston-y-Fedw, but discussion of that here would be getting
off-topic. Suffice it to say that most of these so-called “conservationists”
are not competent to adjudicate on such a complex subject as bell-tuning. I’ll
bet that congregations are not subjected to out-of-tune or badly-toned
organs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Andrew Bull<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Bell-historians [mailto:bell-historians-bounces@lists.ringingworld.co.uk] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Matthew Higby via
Bell-historians<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 31 January 2021 11:42<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Matthew Higby<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bell Historians]
Preshute - all bells added to NBR as 'On Pres List' between 2009 & 2015
(same for Westbury)</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>That said, I am curious to know how these
Wiltshire rings have crept into the lists – and why equally eligible
rings elsewhere haven’t yet made it. I suspect that someone in Salisbury
Diocese has been quite astute and ahead of the game<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>That's easy - because it was the opinion
of someone, that they should be listed!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I remember being at a CBC bell advisors
conference some years back, where they laid out their plans for 'expanding' the
scope of bells which they considered worthy of preservation. That included
'modern rings of exceptional tonal quality' among a number of other things. I
remember Alan Hughes pointing out that it they continued along those lines,
they could end up listing the majority of the bells in the UK, and he expressed
concerns over the knock-on effect on the trade!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I believe the Wiltshire rings were listed
with this review in mind.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I find that the attitude of the CBC
towards work on listed bells is really inconsistent these days. It states in
their 'code of practice' that "a ring of bells should sound balanced and
in tune". They have however, completely contradicted that in their advice
to parishes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Often faculty applications insist that
the CBC is consulted on work to listed bells. Their response is normally
"The CBC feels that the parish have not made a good enough case for us to
consider" I have lost count of the number of times I have read this
line. The last few of their replies that I have seen are also riddled with
factual errors (which is a shame). I remember their attitude towards the
bells at Catworth, Cambridgeshire, they said that a peal of bells which
contained two bells of the same note would make a "characterful ring"
- this resulted in a fine sounding medieval bell being removed from the
peal and hung dead along side. They have recently written to the parish of
South Wraxall, in Wiltshire, stating that they not support some minimal tuning
of the 3 of the 6 bells, to bring them into a true musical scale. Hopefully the
chancellor has seen sense on this one...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>When I first had dealings with the CBC,
you could rely on their expertise to give balanced advice - these days they
appear to have inexperienced staff who prefer to push conservation beyond all
else. I have no idea who sits on the CBC clocks and bells committee these days
- perhaps someone could enlighten us??<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>With all good wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Matthew <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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