<div dir="auto">As project manager of the restoration I don't recall the bell leaving its pit. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 6 Nov 2021, 12:15 Revd David Cawley via Bell-historians, <<a href="mailto:bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk">bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u> <div><div dir="auto" style="unicode-bidi:embed">I can remember the Service / Sanctus Bell at St Seps way back in the mid 1960s. It was rehung (dead, with a lever clapper) about that time. Ernie Rowe and Bill Theobald did the job for Mears & Stainbank.<div><p><br></p><p>There used to be a framed notice by the churchyard gate, near the south porch, inviting donations for the Bells of Old Bailey, asking readers, "When will you pay me?" The panel contained a photograph of Ernie and Bill, with the Eldridge Bell at ground level, exhorting readers: "I am down. Please put me up." Of course it was to be many years before work was done to the main ring. </p><p><br></p><p>As far as I'm aware the Eldridge bell was not restored or tuned in the 1980s.</p><p><br></p><p>My information that the bell was the treble of the old ten came from Bill Hughes, who I understand to have learned it from his father.</p><p><br></p><p>DLC</p><br><blockquote style="margin:0 auto;padding:0 2em;border-left:2px solid #00ade5;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br>------ Original Message ------<br>From: "c.j.pickford.t21--- via Bell-historians" <<a href="mailto:bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk</a>><br>To: "Bell Historians Mailing List" <<a href="mailto:bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:c.j.pickford.t21@btinternet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">c.j.pickford.t21@btinternet.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:c.j.pickford.t21@btinternet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">c.j.pickford.t21@btinternet.com</a>><br>Sent: Friday, 5 Nov, 2021 At 07:10<br>Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Sanctus bell at St Sepulchre without Newgate<br><br><div dir="auto">Don't have the nominal, but I've looked into this from the documentary evidence and concluded that the bell wasn't the old treble. No time to check it out now, but will look it all up later<div>CP<br><br>Sent from my Huawei phone</div></div><div style="line-height:1.5"><br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: [Bell Historians] Sanctus bell at St Sepulchre without Newgate<br>From: Richard Smith <br>To: Bell Historians Mailing List <br>CC: <br><br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1.0px rgb(204,204,204) solid;padding-left:1.0ex"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1.0px rgb(204,204,204) solid;padding-left:1.0ex"><br>Does anyone know the note or nominal frequency of the 1698 <br>William Eldridge sanctus bell at St Sepulchre without <br>Newgate? Also, does anyone know whether it was tuned as <br>part of the restoration in the 1980s? Reading Bill Cook's <br>account of the restoration (RW 1985, pp 493, 498 & 499), <br>this bell seems to have been the treble of the previous ten <br>from before Samuel Knight's recast of them in 1739.<br><br>I don't believe we know the weight of the original ten, but <br>the Eldridge treble is significantly smaller in diameter <br>than the Mears replacement for Knight's treble, at 27.13" <br>compared to 30.75" – though the surviving Knight second of <br>ten is only 29.75" and presumably Knight's treble would have <br>been smaller than that. This might suggest the original ten <br>were lighter than Knight's replacement ring.<br><br>Before the 1980s restoration and augmentation, which saw the <br>ring tuned, Dove listed St Sepulchre as being in D. If the <br>previous ten were also in D, we would expect the sanctus <br>bell to be in F#, assuming it really was the treble of the <br>ten. If it sanctus bell is higher than that, it would <br>suggest the original ring was too, as it is unlikely to have <br>been raised in pitch during any subsequent tuning.<br><br>RAS<br>_______________________________________________<br>Bell-historians mailing list<br><span><a href="mailto:Bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk</a></span><span></span><br><a href="https://lists.ringingworld.co.uk/listinfo/bell-historians" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://lists.ringingworld.co.uk/listinfo/bell-historians</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></div><hr>_______________________________________________<br>
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