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    <font face="Times New Roman">Too true! A colleague of mine and I set
      our to explore/survey the tower (1550s) and western facade
      (roughly c.1300 with predecessors) of Waltham Abbey church in
      2015. We thought it would take a few months but we are still on
      the case!<br>
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      Lawrence<br>
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            a term that I like very much -- "industrial archaeology." 
            Since bell towers are typically the least-modified parts of
            a church in the course of repairs, renovations and
            restorations, they often contain obscure evidence of the
            past that may be quite difficult to interpret -- as the
            present discussion clearly demonstrates!<br>
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              Campanologist <br>
              Saint Louis, Missouri, USA -<br>
               - 19th c. home of at least 37 bell founders or resellers
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              Tel. +1(314)821-8437 <br>
              Webmaster for <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.TowerBells.org">www.TowerBells.org</a><br>
               * Avocation: tower bells<br>
               * Recreation: handbells<br>
              <div> * Mission: church bells</div>
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              <div dir="ltr">Treasurer, World Carillon Federation<br>
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          <div> On Friday, January 28, 2022, 06:59:10 AM CST,
            c.j.pickford--- via Bell-historians
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk"><bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk></a> wrote: </div>
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                  <p class="ydp16012fb0yiv7502027288MsoNormal"><span>I’m
                      not seriously doubting your statement about the
                      clock, Tony, but it would be useful to check the
                      outside of the soundbows to see if there is any
                      sign of clock hammer indentation.</span></p>
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                  <p class="ydp16012fb0yiv7502027288MsoNormal"><span>There
                      is no clock at Wilden in Bedfordshire and hasn’t
                      been for a very long time, but the tenor clearly
                      shows the marks of a clock hammer on the soundbow
                      – and I found a stone clock weight in the tower.
                      Research showed that church inventories (glebe
                      terriers) of 1708, 1822 and 1828 all mention “a
                      clock without face” – so there never would have
                      been any obvious sign after the mechanism had been
                      removed. </span></p>
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                  <p class="ydp16012fb0yiv7502027288MsoNormal"><span>Historical
                      evidence comes in all sorts, and it’s not always
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                              style="color:#1F3864;">Chris Pickford</span></i></b><span
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                          style="color:#2F5496;">Kinver (UK)</span></p>
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