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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“Come My Bride In My Garden”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Richard</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bell-historians [mailto:bell-historians-bounces@lists.ringingworld.co.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Neal Dodge<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 February 2022 6:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bell Historians Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bell Historians] FW: Dove Web Contact: St Mary the Virgin, Parham, Suffolk<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>In case it helps the actual inscription reads <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>"Veni Sponsa Mea In Ortum Meum" <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Many thanks <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Neal Dodge <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Richard Offen <richard.offen@iinet.net.au><br>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022, 22:13<br>To: Bell Historians Mailing List <bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk><br>Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] FW: Dove Web Contact: St Mary the Virgin, Parham, Suffolk<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It looks more like a version of a verse from the Song of Solomon (2:10) than a reference to getting a bell up. <br><br>Richard<br><br>Sent from Richard Offen's iPad<br><br>> On 11 Feb 2022, at 1:49 am, Tim Jackson <tim@timjackson.email> wrote:<br>> <br>> <span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span>Please see below.<br>> <br>> Tim <br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Jonathan Cottrell [mailto:j.c.cottrell@btinternet.com] <br>> Sent: 09 February 2022 21:47<br>> To: Tim Jackson<br>> Subject: Re: Dove Web Contact: St Mary the Virgin, Parham, Suffolk<br>> <br>> Tim, may I ask a question on pre-full circle ringing terminology? I<br>> understand that full circle ringing started in the 16th century. Our c1299<br>> bell has a Latin inscription that is thought to translate to "Come, my<br>> bride, to my rising/beginning/garden". I know a full circle bell is raised<br>> before being rung in a method and therefore 'to my rising' might be<br>> considered the most likely of the 3 options for a bell inscription. Is there<br>> any evidence that pre-full circle ringing involved the terminology of<br>> raising a bell at any stage? Please do feel free to pass this question on to<br>> your fellow Ringing World bell historians if you are not familiar with this<br>> rather obscure area! Best wishes, John <br>> <br>> Sent from my iPad<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Bell-historians mailing list<br>> Bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk<br>> https://lists.ringingworld.co.uk/listinfo/bell-historians<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Bell-historians mailing list<br>Bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk<br>https://lists.ringingworld.co.uk/listinfo/bell-historians<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>