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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There is a detailed history of Moore, Holmes & MacKenzie in Paul Cattermole’s book ‘Church Bells and Bell Ringing – A Norfolk Profile’ (p211).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Bell-historians <bell-historians-bounces@lists.ringingworld.co.uk>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Dickenson via Bell-historians<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 February 2025 06:18<br>
<b>To:</b> Bell Historians <bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jonathan Dickenson <northernbranch@googlemail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bell Historians] fundenhall and winterton<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Aren't they a Moore, Holmes & Mackenzie setup? The central round stay is a feature of them. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Surlingham I recall is similar (unringable). They also have glass bottles on the bearing houses for the oil!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thorpe St. Andrew and Mendham are in the back of my mind by them, too (without looking at Dove)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, 11 Feb 2025, 22:10 Carl S Zimmerman, <<a href="mailto:csz_stl@swbell.net">csz_stl@swbell.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif">Thanks for posting these photos! This is the first change ringing installation that I have seen using a frame style that is almost universal for American church bells of the 19th & early
20th c. -- an independent metal A-frame for each bell. From what I can find in Dove (under Frames), they are fairly rare elsewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Carl Scott Zimmerman, Campanologist
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Saint Louis, Missouri, USA -<br>
- 19th c. home of at least 37 bell founders or resellers <br>
Tel. +1-314-821-8437 <br>
Webmaster for <a href="http://www.towerbells.org/" target="_blank">www.TowerBells.org</a><br>
* Avocation: tower bells<br>
* Recreation: handbells<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> * Mission: church bells<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="http://www.tscchapter134.org/" target="_blank">www.TSCChapter134.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1120683" target="_blank">https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1120683</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: oliver Lee via Bell-historians <<a href="mailto:bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk" target="_blank">bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk</a>><br>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025, 23:34<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk" target="_blank">bell-historians@lists.ringingworld.co.uk</a><br>
Cc: oliver Lee <<a href="mailto:oliverbellringer@outlook.com" target="_blank">oliverbellringer@outlook.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Bell Historians] fundenhall and winterton<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I'd be very interested to hear from anyone who has rung on the unringable six at winterton or the five at fundenhall (which where rung from the crossing), my dove's from 1976 has
the latter as being ringable but by the time that the sixth edition was published in 1982 they are listed simply as a swing chime (although they don't appear as unringable until the 1988 edition). Winterton however is something of an enigma according to many
sources the bells where condemned because of frame defects but there is no mention of when this was or when indeed they where last rung!, the NDACR report lists them as being ringable in 1996 so I'm guessing this was in the late 1990s?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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