I see that Newport Pagnall intend to go up to 10, with the carillon bell hung for ringing as well. The frame designs are at http://www.northbucks.org.uk/newport_pagnell_frames.htm#ES What amazes me is the difference in the estimated costs http://www.northbucks.org.uk/newport_pagnell_costs.htm How can Whitechapel be c.£20000 more expensive than E & S or Taylors? Mike