[Bell Historians] bell shapes

[jimhedgcock]

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It was kind of David Bryant to point out that Liverpool Cathedral and 
St. Helens Carillon are by different founders. I should have made 
that fact clear myself, having been associated with both towers more 
than forty years ago.

It would be interesting if those 'in the know' could share their 
information about profiles of heavy ringing bells and static chiming 
bells by Whitechapel and Loughborough to see if my original thoughts 
were correct or not.
Looking at my photographs of St.Helens bass bell and Exeter tenor, I 
am still dubious that different founders is the answer to my query. 
Whilst I have a photo of Liverpool Cath. tenor, there are no modern 
Whitechapel static chimimg bells of similar weight with which to 
compare it. One POSSIBLE comparison using heavy bells might be 
between Southwark Cath. and Westminster Cath. There may be others of 
which I am not aware. It might be that as the weights regress the 
difference in profile, if there is one, diminishes.

In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "David Bryant" <david at b...> wrote:
> > Could someone please explain to me why bells hung for ringing and
> > chiming bells having the same/nearly the same note, can be so
> > dramatically different in shape? I have in mind Liverpool 
Cathedral's
> > tenor at St. Helens Carillon bass bell. I assume that it may have
> > something to do with the dynamics in making a ringing bell easier 
to
> > handle and clapper correctly.
> 
> Surely the case you quote is because the bells are by different 
founders,
> rather than because one is a ringing and one is a chiming bell. 
Obviously,
> the front end of a ring is heavier than that of a chime to make the 
trebles
> powerful enough, but I hadn't noticed any difference in profile in 
the
> majoroty of cases. However, I believe Gilletts sometimes cast the 
tenor of a
> chime rather long-waisted. Don't know why. The tenor at St 
Wilfrid's in
> York, formerly the tenor of a chime, is one of these and it causes 
problems
> with the timing of this bell (i.e. it's very slow) in relation to 
the
> others.
> 
> Taylor's, at least (not sure about WBF and G&J) have sometimes cast 
trebles
> of higher number rings longer in the waist, presumably to add 
weight.
> 
> David