[Bell Historians] questions

[David Cawley]

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For a full account see The Parish Church of St Michael and All Angels, Thor=
nhill, The Story of the Installation of the New Bells in 1980 by Revd Nicho=
las Webb, B.A. Rector of Thornhill (Kirkfield Press Henley Avenue, Thornhil=
l, Dewsbury).

The old six were previously at Mirfield (!), prior to the installation of t=
he new ten in the new tower there in 1873.

The late Fr Nicholas Webb was a friend of mine - he died young, suddenly an=
d tragically a few years ago. He held very strong views, not least about t=
he God-given opportunity when "a willing band of ringers with expertise, sa=
ddled with an extremely difficult, heavy-going ring of six, were presented =
by their ringing Rector with the chance of transferring a light ring of eig=
ht from a redundant church at Todmorden".

There was "continual contact with the chairman of the Redundant Bells Commi=
ttee of the CCCBR". "There was no way that Thornhill could store =A35000 wo=
rth of redundant bells because of the risk of theft, no offers from anyone =
to purchase the bells stand an adverse cash flow of over =A38000 for an ind=
efinite period". It came to this: if Thornhill could not sell their bells,=
they could not afford the money for the Cross Stone octave. One might add=
that in 1980 there was no Keltek trust!

The project was approved by Wilf Moreton. It is sad that the back five of =
the old six with their 1914 fittings could not be saved. But as it turned o=
ut, within a few years the bells (with many other projects at Thornhill) we=
re to prove Nick's lasting memorial and the lessons learned were, amongst o=
thers, to lead to the foundation of the Keltek Trust.

DLC
----- Original Message -----=20
From: David Bryant=20
To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] questions


Why did they decide to replace the bells with the current eight? Does any=
one
know? I can well believe that the bells were not wonderful, but the pres=
ent
eight aren't reckoned to be too wonderful either.

David
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Dawson" <George at d...>
To: <bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] questions


> Those are the Taylor restoration weights of c1914.
>
> GAD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DJ Bryant" <djb122 at y...>
> To: <bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] questions
>
>
> > Thanks. Are those the scrapping weights? Greenwood gives the tenor as
16-3
> > something.
> >
> > David
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, George Dawson wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > 2) Does anyone have the weights of the old six at Thornhill, West
> Yorks?
> > > > Greenwood only gives the tenor weight.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > 4.3.1
> > > 5.2.3
> > > 7.2.18
> > > 8.3.18
> > > 10.0.10
> > > 15.1.8
> > > 1/6 is now 1/6 at Cropwell Bishop, Notts.
> > >
> > > GAD
>
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