[Bell Historians] Digest Number 287

Scott Ayers (3645) sayers at n...
Sat Jan 4 14:04:46 GMT 2003 

Hi, 
I am going to be in Madrid for a wedding in March for the weekend!
I was planning to have a look, and do speak a little Spanish. I am by no
means an expert, but if given some questions, I will endeavour to find the
answers, and generally see what condition they are in!

Scotty


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> 1. Madrid
> From: Michael Wilby <michael_wilby at y...>
> 2. Re: Madrid
> From: "George Dawson" <George at d...>
> 3. Re: Madrid
> From: "Mike Chester <mike at m...>"
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> 4. Re: Madrid
> From: "D Cawley" <dave at d...>
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> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:22:57 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Michael Wilby <michael_wilby at y...>
> Subject: Madrid
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> Just been browsing the web, and came across this photo
> of the Iglesia de San Francisco el Grande, Madrid,
> which is supposed to contain an 8. Does anyone know
> anything about this ring?
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> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:30:16 -0000
> From: "George Dawson" <George at d...>
> Subject: Re: Madrid
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> See RW 25.6.99 p.614.
> Ran Clouston saw them in the '60/70's
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> GAD
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> > Just been browsing the web, and came across this photo
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> > anything about this ring?
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> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 18:45:32 -0000
> From: "Mike Chester <mike at m...>"
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> Subject: Re: Madrid
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> --- In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, Michael Wilby 
> <michael_wilby at y...> wrote:
> > Just been browsing the web, and came across this photo
> > of the Iglesia de San Francisco el Grande, Madrid,
> > which is supposed to contain an 8. Does anyone know
> > anything about this ring?
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> > url:
> > http://host.e-mailcom.co.uk/mpaw/madrid_san_francisco_el_grande.jpg
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> I think that I have read somewhere that they are a Warner Ring.
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> Mike
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:26:05 -0000
> From: "D Cawley" <dave at d...>
> Subject: Re: Madrid
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> I have a copy of RWMC's report following his visit in 1956.
> 
> See RW 14.12.56 pp 793/794 for his subsequent article.
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> In brief the two easter towers carry 19 bells all supplied by Warner in
> 1882, and all inscribed:
> CAST BY JOHN WARNER & SONS LONDON 1882./(waist) + + / +/ + +
> / IGLESIA DE SAN FRANCISCO / 1882.
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> South East tower has ring of eight tenor 36.1/2", 8-cwt Ab, in a teak
> frame. Many of the ringing fittings were missing. Rung originally from a
> circular staircase with a void in the centre, with the bells only a few
> feet above the ringers' heads.
> Electrically operated chiming hammers fitted to four bells c1910.
> 
> North East tower has chime of eleven bells tenor 45", 15-cwt in F, hung
> dead in a teak frame, originally chimed from a barrell, later by an
> electrical machine and by the time of the visit only the tenor had a means
> of making a sound - a ball of iron tied by a rope to the staple. The rest
> had no means of sounding them.
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> All that was in 1956.
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> The Bell News, vol I, 1882, p.327 gives Warners' account of their
> installation and their bellhangers' efforts to teach some ringers, as well
> as to put the chime into use.
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> So, anyone reliable who is is going to Spain, this really needs updating !
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> DLC
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> From: Michael Wilby 
> To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: 03 January 2003 15:22
> Subject: [Bell Historians] Madrid
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> 
> Just been browsing the web, and came across this photo
> of the Iglesia de San Francisco el Grande, Madrid,
> which is supposed to contain an 8. Does anyone know
> anything about this ring?
> 
> url:
> http://host.e-mailcom.co.uk/mpaw/madrid_san_francisco_el_grande.jpg
> 
> MPAW.
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