[Bell Historians] Llandaff

jimhedgcock <jameshedgcock@h...> jameshedgcock at h...
Sun Jan 19 23:10:26 GMT 2003


The James details are correct and I did make the mistakes. I am 
pleased to have mine corrected. Thanks to those who sent me e.mails.
Jim---

In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "jimhedgcock 
<jameshedgcock at h...>" <jameshedgcock at h...> wrote:
> --
> 
> There are still three differences between my details and those in 
> James' Llandaff bells.
> James gives 2nd as 5 3 23, 5th as 7 0 2 and 8th as 11 3 0
> Whilst I may have been clumsy in my transcriptions and made one 
> mistake, I would hope that I didn't make three mistakes.
> Perhaps the answer to all the questions is to obtain the scrapping 
> weights from Whitechapel.
> Jim
> 
> - In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "JohnBaldwin" 
<Dovemaster at c...> 
> wrote:
> > Jim IS definitely right here - looking at things again, the 
figures 
> I
> > presented (pp55,56, and 21) appear to be for the period 1919 to 
> 1952. At
> > the latter date they were removed to Whitechapel for canon 
removal 
> and
> > retuning - and the book clearly shows a change in tenor note by 
that
> > semitone. The post '53 notes were E(tenor) to G# (treble). 
Jim's 
> figures
> > (and the above notes) are confirmed on p24. Sorry to have been 
too 
> hasty in
> > replying - and thanks to Jim for picking that up.
> > 
> > John Baldwin
> > (029) 2055 4457
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jimhedgcock <jameshedgcock at h...>
> > > [mailto:jameshedgcock at h...]
> > > Sent: 19 January 2003 13:41
> > > To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Llandaff
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > I have different details. I can only think that they came from 
the
> > > tower in 1972
> > > 27 1/2" 5 0 14 M&S 1919
> > > 29 1/2" 5 2 23 " "
> > > 30 1/2" 6 0 0 " 1879
> > > 31 1/2" 6 1 2 " "
> > > 33 1/2" 7 2 0 " "
> > > 35 1/2" 8 0 19 " "
> > > 38 1/2" 9 2 16 " "
> > > 40 1/2" 11 0 3 " "
> > > 44 1/2" 15 1 0 " "
> > > 49 1/2" 20 1 0 Rudhall 1782 in E
> > > In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "JohnBaldwin" 
<Dovemaster at c...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > From Nevil James' The Bells of Llandaff and their ringers 
(1982)
> > > > and supplement 1998:
> > > >
> > > > Treble: 5-0-6 G
> > > > 2: 5-3-17 F
> > > > 3: 6-1-4 2'6.5" Eb
> > > > 4: 6-3-10 2'7.5" D
> > > > 5: 7-2-3 2'9.5" C
> > > > 6: 8-3-8 2'11.5" Bb
> > > > 7: 10-1-21 3'2.5" Ab
> > > > 8: 12-2-4 3'4.5" G
> > > > 9: 16-3-3 3'8.5" F
> > > > Tenor: 23cwt app 4'1.5" Eb
> > > >
> > > > John Baldwin
> > > > (029) 2055 4457
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: David Bryant [mailto:djb122 at y...]
> > > > > Sent: 19 January 2003 11:18
> > > > > To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [Bell Historians] Llandaff
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have the weights and diameters of the old ring 
of 
> ten
> > > at
> > > > > Llandaff?
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > >
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