[Bell Historians] standards of research

Mark Humphreys mark.humphreys at b...
Wed Nov 5 22:48:18 GMT 2003

I'm sorry, but I think that is incredibly defeatist. Honestly, I do.
For a starter, not everyone who creates webpages, sometimes in a fit of
keenness, then discovers they have the time or energy to update them.
Some (fathers, grandfathers?) may have got other people to have created
the sites but do not have the expertise to maintain them, while their
sons or grandsons now have other things to do, or 'maintainers' might
feel guilty in pressing for more work.

Like young Mr Cawley, some email contacts on websites might still feel
that they are running steam powered machines. It doesn't matter that
those of us in turbo charged ferraris should look down on them.

And that's only one possible reason! Can we please, as a community, be
helpful but not overpowerful?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: jimhedgcock [mailto:jameshedgcock at h...] 
> Sent: 05 November 2003 22:38
> To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] standards of research
> --- What do you do when you take the trouble to indicate mistakes on 
> websites and no action is taken, even after you have received a reply 
> stating that they are aware of the mistake/s? And what do you do when 
> towers continue to display bell details that are incorrect, even when 
> they know that they are incorrect?
> I gave up!
> In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "Mark Humphreys" 
> <mark.humphreys at b...> wrote:
> > Today's discussion made me think to trawl back through some old
> emails
> > on the subject:
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Bryant [mailto:david at b...]
> > > Sent: 01 September 2003 22:43
> > > To: Bell Historians
> > > Subject: [Bell Historians] standards of research
> > > 
> > > It is only necessary to look at some of the complete
> > > drivel on 'bell details/history' sections of individual tower 
> > > websites to see what I mean! I won't pick on individual 
> > > examples, but a number can be found by following the links on 
> > > Roger Bailey's page.
> > > 
> > > So what do people think? Is there any way we can set and
> > > encourage standards in research?
> > 
> > Help them, not patronise them. They may the members of any 
> proposed 
> > bell history society. I, for one, would be strongly against
> alienating
> > those who members on this list may propose to lead. We all started 
> > somewhere. I started from a purely historical point of view, and
> would
> > not claim to know a Doncastor canon/head/bugger cares what if it
> hit mew
> > in the face (though I'm sure it would hurt me if I did). I am,
> however,
> > passionately interested in the history of bells and bellringing.
> > 
> > Are these two viewpoints incompatible?
> > 
> > Mark
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