[Bell Historians] CARRION at the Albert Hall in Nottingham

David Cawley dcawley at w...
Sat Aug 21 01:13:45 BST 2004

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Wonderful when one of our great Organ Builders reduces us to horsemeat -wha=
t would he say if I did that to his Tuba Magna ?

What a carry on.
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Subject: [Bell Historians] Carrion at the Albert Hall in Nottingham

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> Wouild this enquiry below be of any interest to the bell community?
> David
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Pike Mander [mailto:ManderUK at c...]
> Sent: 20 August 2004 12:38
> To: Orgue-l posting
> Subject: [Orgue-l] Carrion at the Albert Hall in Nottingham
> Dear List,
> Yesterday I went to The Albert Hall in Nottingham to look at the Carrio=
> the organ there which was built by Binns in about 1909. The stop is sai=
> have originally a been a set of reveille bells. I have never come acros=
> anything like them at all. I was wondering if I were to describe them t=
> if any of you would recognise anything in the description that would gi=
> you a clue as to what they are and if one could get a set now.
> The general construction seems to be a brass tube closed at the top whi=
> from approximately half way down has slots cut in the side rather like =
> tuning fork. The tube is hit very close to the bottom, so it works like=
> tuning fork in that respect as well. In addition, just above the slots
> is a hole in the tube which is in one side I think. Only thinking about=
> now do I realise that I am not sure if the hole is on both sides.
> The largest of the tubes (for tenor G) is 648mm long and has a diameter=
> 84mm. The smallest (top e) has a length of 108mm and a diameter of 42mm=
> would appear that every bell is of an individual diameter although the
> graduation reduces just like an organ pipe as you go up the scale. The
> also have horizontal grooves cut into them the purpose of which totally
> eludes me.
> I am not sure how these bells were made, but I get the impression that
> were all cast individually. They must then have been turned to give a
> outer finish and then had the grooves cut into them at the same time. T=
> grooves appear to be all the same distance apart at approximately 10mm.
> holes were clearly drilled in and the slots which vary between about 20
> 30mm milled out. The width of the slots does not graduate, but seems
> I assume (but don't know) that this might have something to do with the
> tuning of the notes. The tubes all appear to be of the same thickness
> is approximately 4.5mm.
> Does this mean anything to any of you? I could look out a picture and s=
> it individually if that would help. Just send me an e-mail
> (ManderUK at m...). My guess is that this is something which =
> common enough in theatre organs or maybe even street organs, but I thin=
> is too large and bulky for the latter. I also wonder if it was somethin=
> which might have been imported from America.
> Any clues would be appreciated. There is talk of Birmingham Town Hall
> wanting a similar stop.
> John Pike Mander
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