Fw: Layston

[davidhird_uk]

Hmmm... might be unringable then by all the versions of the 
definition.

David

--- In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "David Cawley" <dave at ...> 
wrote:
>
> I realise that apart from the word "derelict" I said nothing about 
the state the bells are in.
> 
> Ringing fittings were all present, headstocks very badly infested 
with worm, 2nd headstock split. Stays, sliders etc very wormy. 
Wheels probably early 19thC, beginning to come apart. Strap 
gudgeons, stock hoops, very worn drive-in type bearings. Clappers 
probably as old as the bells. The five probably had a fair bit of 
ringing back in the 18th / 19th centuries. Two hammers remain of a 
19th century chiming apparatus. No ropes anywhere. They were a 
ground floor ring.
> 
> Frame ancient. Bells hung in order 5, 1, 4, 3 swinging north/south 
and the 2nd at right angles at the south end. An anti-clockwise rope 
circle, ropes actually in approximately correct order. Three types 
of truss. The east side of the 3rd (now treble) pit and the south 
side of the pit which held the lost second are Pickford type 5C 
sides, but with jack-braces; the inner sides of these two pits are 
Pickford type 6H, again jack braced to the corner posts. Tenor pit 
both sides and pit between former treble and 4th (now 2nd) Pickford 
type 5R. There were 4 bells in 1552 and the older components of the 
frame are probably of c1500. I reckon that the frame was rebuilt and 
a 5th pit added when the bells were augmented to 5 in 1633 - the two 
lost bells were also by James Butler. Wedged to walls on all four 
sides. The outer side of the tenor pit is in a really bad way and 
has been stiffened by nailing boards horizontally across its members 
for the whole length of the pit. There are a lot of beams beneath, 
many of them propped up by posts, but the joints at the base of the 
frame are badly decayed. So is the bell chamber floor.
> 
> Hope this is of interest.
> 
> DLC
> 
>    
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: David Cawley 
> To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Confidentiality
> 
> 
> 
> See my posting of 13.38 to-day
> 
> DLC
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: davidhird_uk 
>   To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:29 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Confidentiality
> 
> 
>   --- In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "Bickerton, Roderic K 
\(SELEX\) 
>   \(UK\)" <roderic.bickerton@> wrote:
>   >
>   > 
>   > The way these things are done is puzzling. An example is 
Layston 
>   Herts. where all is not finalised, yet Rumble and Edwards, 
estate 
>   agents of St Albans have the church on there books. 2 of the 3 
bells 
>   in this tower are of historic importance.
>   > (I still need to do more on this.)
> 
>   I had a look at this church a while ago. A completely derelict 
>   building all fenced off. Did you ever manage to get in to have a 
look 
>   at what state the bells are in? I think David kelly was also 
trying to 
>   gain access.
> 
>   David
>