[Bell Historians] Re: Submitting historic peals (was The Botley Youths)

Richard Smith richard@ex-parrot.com [bellhistorians] bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
Sun Dec 3 18:21:31 GMT 2017

Sam Austin sam0austin at gmail.com [bellhistorians] wrote:

> When submitting historic peals, please be mindful of tenor weights and
> places where rings have been replaced.
> For instance, this is listed as having the tenor weight as the same the
> 1952 recast,  41-3-15 in C.
>   http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1200149
> whereas at the time, it was 41-0-14 in Bb

Thanks for the timely reminder, Sam.

As there's currently no comprehensive database of lost 
rings, the best BellBoard can do when you submit a 
historical performance -- I'll leave others to decide which 
performances are historic and which merely historical -- is 
to supply the details of the current ring.  In some cases 
this will be correct; in other cases, as here, it will need 
changing manually.

Earlier this afternoon I imported Dave Kelly's spreadsheet 
of 466 lost rings into BellBoard, which means the details of 
towers like Tipton, Upper Clacton and West Bromwich will now 
auto-complete too.  Anyone entering a performance at a lost 
tower should make sure they enter the date before the place 
name, as auto-completion only lists lost towers where the 
bells were removed after the date of the performance: so you 
can enter a peal at Tipton in 1930 but not in 1970 as 
BellBoard now knows they were removed in 1951.

Also perhaps of interest to those entering old performances 
on BellBoard, BellBoard now has an open access policy to 
editing old performances.  The details of this may change as 
we see how it pans out, but at present any person logged 
into BellBoard can edit any performance rung before 2004. 
This means if there are errors, such as with the weight of 
the old ring at Pier Head, anyone can now correct them, and 
I would encourage you to do so if you're confident about the 
facts.  You will also see a link to a version history page 
in the footer of the performance so you can see what changes 
have been made.

One final feature that might be of interest is that it is 
now possible to add annotations to performances rung before 
1900.  The option to do this can be found on the edit menu 
(found by clickon on the pencil icon).  The purpose of this 
feature is to allow the performance to be put in context, 
and for any uncertainty over the details to be recorded. 
Generally speaking, I'd rather annotations were used in 
preference to footnotes for details that were not included 
in the contemporary records. You'll see examples of them on 
some of very earliest performances on BellBoard.

It's possible for multiple people to annotate performances, 
and if there are different opinions, for example on the 
likelihood that the composition was true, do please annotate 
the performance to add the competing point of view, but I 
don't want it to turn into a general discussion mechanism.


Posted by: Richard Smith <richard at ex-parrot.com>


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