[Bell Historians] Kemberton

Richard Offen richard.offen at iinet.net.au
Sat May 14 23:26:43 BST 2022


With respect, I think that is totally daft. I can perhaps see the point of doing that if the pitch is nearer midway between two semitones, but Kemberton tenor is 11 cents flat of Bb, which most musical ears would not be able to perceive as being flat of standard pitch. 

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> On 15 May 2022, at 12:08 am, Nigel Taylor <nigelsdtaylor at outlook.com> wrote:
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> When Online Dove moved to apply standard pitch (A=440) to note names, this resulted in some keynotes being changed. Ben Kipling and myself agreed that the note name should reflect the pitch standard, so sharp of F# international is Gb, and on pitch or flat of pitch is F#.
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> I have made enquiries about the A flat and G sharp thing which is equally perplexing!!
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> On Sat, 14 May 2022 at 8:26, Richard Offen
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> Could I ask why the new ring of six for Kemberton, Shropshire (soon to be eight) are being shown on the online Dove website as being in the key of A#?
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> If I remember my music theory correctly, A# Major is not in the circle of fifths as it’s structure, with three double sharps, is considered too complicated for practical use. 
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> The tenor at Kemberton, according to the nominal frequency given on the Dove page is 11 cents flat of B-flat, so why not show the ring in that commonly used key? To add insult to injury, one of the bells is shown as being in E-flat, which makes even more of a nonsense of it all!
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> Rings of bells are musical instruments and therefore, in my opinion, should conform to the tried and tested conventions of musical notation. 
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