[Bell Historians] Holy Triity Sunderland

Tue Aug 1 16:18:48 BST 2023

The information I was given in the 1970s was that nos. 1 and 2 at Holy
Trinity were recast by Mears & Stainbank in 1951.  This is confirmed by the
online version of Dove and the National Bell Register.  

The church (now in the care of the Churches Conservation Trust) was built in
1719.  It must have had a bell or bells before 1829, but I was unable to
find any information about it.  I have certainly never heard any suggestion
that it had a ring of six then.

Peter Rivet

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Holy Trinity Sunderland

Treble and 2nd.  1829, were donated by Dr. Gerald Valerian Wellesley D.D. of
Bishopwearmouth.
Rest of peal also 1829.
He was the brother of the Duke of Wellington.
Wellesley became Rector of Sedgefield in 1864.
Rehung in oak frame and ¼ turned in 1900.
Some work done in 1947 - not sure what.

Regards - Howard E J Smith

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   1. Sunderland, Holy Trinity (Mike Chester)
   2. Re: St Mary's, Illingworth (Richard Offen)

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Historic England has an entry for this church at:

https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1208056?section=o
fficial-list-entry

"The original peal of six bells was recast in 1829 as a peal of eight bells
by Thomas Mears of London."

I have never before come across the suggestion that the 1829 ring replaced
an earlier one. As the church was completed in 1719, it is entirely possible
that this is the case.  Does anyone have any details of what was in the
tower prior to 1829? The inscriptions reveal nothing of a possible recast.

Many thanks

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The details of the destroyed organ can be found here:

https://www.npor.org.uk/survey/N07069

As you will see, the organ was not stolen.

Richard

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Illingworth St Mary had a chime of 8 bells, 10-2-0 in Ab. They were removed
in 1979. The back four are now the back four of the ring at St Martin le
Grand, York and the front four the back four at Clifton, York.

Mike

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Dear colleagues and friends,

The Carillon Society of Britain and Ireland has received the enquiry below.
We are not familiar with this tower nor it housing a carillon of such a
number of bells. Does anyone have any light to shed? I will collate any
replies for our enquirer and reply directly.

All my best,

Scott

Back around 1965 I was head choir boy at the church and was asked to ring
the bells for a couple of weddings.

I'm struggling now to find any articles or news about the church or its 24
bell carillon. I understand that hte [sic] church was broken into and organ
pipes stolen, but that's as much as I know.

Are you able to provide any links or other info that might help please?

Regards,

Steven Bond

formally of Cousin Lane, Illingworth.

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SCOTT ALLAN ORR

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