From peakentprz at aol.com  Sun Nov  3 22:44:59 2024
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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2024 22:44:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Bell Historians] OLD BELL
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Hi can anyone point me in the right direction that can help me figure out what the history is of a bell that i have??I believe it is a very old church bell it has small boxes with 9 dots in them forming a cross.
Thank YouKurt
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From peter at plrivet.plus.com  Fri Nov 15 13:31:05 2024
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:31:05 -0000
Subject: [Bell Historians] OLD BELL
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It looks interesting, but where did it come from?  Some sort of provenance would be helpful.

 

Peter Rivet

 

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Hi can anyone point me in the right direction that can help me figure out what the history is of a bell that i have? 

I believe it is a very old church bell it has small boxes with 9 dots in them forming a cross.

 

Thank You

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From david at bagleybells.co.uk  Fri Nov 15 14:01:40 2024
From: david at bagleybells.co.uk (David Bagley)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:01:40 +0000
Subject: [Bell Historians] OLD BELL
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The shape, with the angled lip, looks rather Italianesque to me.

David


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It looks interesting, but where did it come from?  Some sort of provenance would be helpful.

Peter Rivet

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Subject: [Bell Historians] OLD BELL

Hi can anyone point me in the right direction that can help me figure out what the history is of a bell that i have?
I believe it is a very old church bell it has small boxes with 9 dots in them forming a cross.

Thank You
Kurt
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From csz_stl at swbell.net  Fri Nov 15 15:51:41 2024
From: csz_stl at swbell.net (Carl S Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:51:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Bell Historians] OLD BELL
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A cross formed with diamonds, and standing on a base of diamonds (or in this case boxes) is a common decorative theme on old Spanish bells.? I have seen several such.? But without any inscription, it is unlikely that its maker could be identified.
The best Spanish source that I know is campaners.com, which has inventories of the contents of many Spanish towers.? The English section of that Website is relatively recent and simple, and is not equivalent to the much more extensive Spanish & Catalan section.

Carl Scott Zimmerman, Campanologist 
Saint Louis, Missouri, USA -
?- 19th c. home of at least 37 bell founders or resellers 
Tel. +1-314-821-8437 
Webmaster for www.TowerBells.org
?* Avocation: tower bells
?* Recreation: handbells
?* Mission: church bellsWebmaster for www.TSCChapter134.orgTreasurer, World Carillon Federation
 

    On Friday, November 15, 2024 at 08:02:14 AM CST, David Bagley <david at bagleybells.co.uk> wrote:  
 
 
The shape, with the angled lip, looks rather Italianesque to me.
 
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David
 
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It looks interesting, but where did it come from?? Some sort of provenance would be helpful.
 
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Peter Rivet
 
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Hi can anyone point me in the right direction that can help me figure out what the history is of a bell that i have??
 
I believe it is a very old church bell it has small boxes with 9 dots in them forming a cross.
 
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Thank You
 
Kurt
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