[Bell Historians] Recovered stolen bell ...

Wed Nov 27 22:23:52 GMT 2024

Thanks Neil – that opens up more options, but nothing obvious.

Emmanuel church in Bistre, Flints had their bell recast by G&J, dated 1950 in the books, diameter 18.3 inches BUT there is a note to say “Recast with canons” (which this hasn’t got). It nonetheless looks the closest match if you ignore the canons note.

Ogmore Vale (Women’s Institute), 18.8 inches, dated Apr 1949 in the books BUT hardly likely to have the religious inscription.

The Dr Bernardo’s reference is at Parkstone, 19 inches, dated May 1949. This became Parkstone Sea Training School in 1949 and has a clock tower.

Picture here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Parkstone_Sea_Training_School_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1590123.jpg

Again, one wonders about the inscription

This is after a cursory look at the records and in the absence of anywhere more obvious, it might be worth an approach to one or more of the above.

Dickon Love

Bromley, Kent

07983 352279

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And in slight revision to earlier information, the diameter is 18.3 inches (17.8 being the internal diameter) 

Many thanks 

Neal Dodge 

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Attached are some more photos sent by the police

Many thanks 

Neal Dodge 

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In Christopher Dalton's Dorset there is mention of a bell cast for Dr. Barnardo's Home 1949 but this is 19 inches.

DS

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Gillet & Johnson, a clock bell?

Julian Parr

Salisbury DAC Clocks Advisor

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We know where the Hanningtons bell is. And it's inscription 

C

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I’ve also had a look at the records. There was a bell from Hannington Ltd, Brighton, #6689 tuned 1949, 17.5 inches, that was acquired by Keltek, but I can’t imagine an ecclesiastical inscription would be put on a clock bell for a private company.

I wonder if the police have read the “1940” properly. 

I assume none of the Dewsbury Moor bells have gone missing.

DrL

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I’ve looked through the spreadsheet version of the index and can’t find any matching bell tuned in 1949 (or 1950). Very surprised there’s no serial number – bells of this date almost invariably (exceptions ARE possible, of course), have them. I wonder if it’s worth the police having a closer look?

Chris Pickford

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I've spoken to the police and there isn't a serial number on it but it carries the date 1949 along with the shield G&J used at the time and measures 17.8 inches in diameter. 

I've got someone who has access to the G&J records to have a look but won't be till this evening, so if anyone can add anything in the meantime please do!

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I don’t think I can add much to what has been said on Facebook but (a) it’s a Gillett & Johnston product and (b) the inscription suggests that it may have been cast for a Roman Catholic church or school.  It certainly isn’t a stock bell.

Peter Rivet

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Hi All

The following has been reported by "Warwickshire Rural Crime Team" - a stolen bell that they have recovered.

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Can anyone shed any light on this?

Kind regards   

Peter Kirby ...

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