[Bell Historians] fundenhall and winterton

[Jonathan Dickenson]

Aren't they a Moore, Holmes & Mackenzie setup?  The central round stay is a
feature of them.

Surlingham I recall is similar (unringable).  They also have glass bottles
on the bearing houses for the oil!

Thorpe St. Andrew and Mendham are in the back of my mind by them, too
(without looking at Dove)

Jonathan

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025, 22:10 Carl S Zimmerman, <csz_stl at swbell.net> wrote:

> Thanks for posting these photos!  This is the first change ringing installation
> that I have seen using a frame style that is almost universal for American
> church bells of the 19th & early 20th c. -- an independent metal A-frame
> for each bell.  From what I can find in Dove (under Frames), they are
> fairly rare elsewhere.
>
> Carl Scott Zimmerman, Campanologist
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> On Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 05:03:07 AM CST, Neal Dodge via
> Bell-historians <bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Attached are some pictures of Winterton (Norf) from 2018, it's likely the
> installation has deteriorated further since then.
> They were rung in 2012 for a QP for the Diamond jubilee
> https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1120683
> I think they were only chimed in 2018 for the Armistice centenary.
>
>
>
>
>
> Many thanks
> Neal Dodge
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: oliver Lee via Bell-historians <
> bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk>
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025, 23:34
> To: bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk
> Cc: oliver Lee <oliverbellringer at outlook.com>
> Subject: [Bell Historians] fundenhall and winterton
>
> I'd be very interested to hear from anyone who has rung on the unringable
> six at winterton or the five at fundenhall (which where rung from the
> crossing), my dove's from 1976 has the latter as being ringable but by the
> time that the sixth edition was published in 1982 they are listed simply as
> a swing chime (although they don't appear as unringable until the 1988
> edition). Winterton however is something of an enigma according to many
> sources the bells where condemned because of frame defects but there is no
> mention of when this was or when indeed they where last rung!, the NDACR
> report lists them as being ringable in 1996 so I'm guessing this was in the
> late 1990s?
>
> Many thanks
> Oliver lee
>
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