[Bell Historians] False Peal Compositions and Performances from 1911-1919

[Richard Pullin]

Thanks Graham, I've updated Felstead regarding peals 3 and 7

On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 at 16:34, Andrew Craddock <drew.craddock at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Graham
>
> Thank you for all your hard work adding details of compositions in RW
> years 1911 to 1919 to your excellent complib.
>
> I have updated PealBase to show peals 3, 5 and 7 as false.
>
> Cheers
>
> Drew Craddock
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> On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 at 15:18, Graham John <graham at changeringing.co.uk>
> wrote:
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>> I have been through the Ringing Worlds from 1911 to 1919 methodically
>> recording all published compositions into Complib. The following referenced
>> performances appear to be false, so should be marked as such in Felstead
>> and Pealbase. I have already added and marked them as false on Bellboard.
>>
>> 1. T:Chesterfield, 10-Jun-1911, 5003 Double Norwich Court Bob Caters by
>> Arthur Knights [performance RW1911-V1/199 composition
>> <https://complib.org/composition/147129> RW1911-V1/277 bellboard
>> https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1887381, reported false
>> RW1911-V1/394]
>> 2. T:Erith St John, 8-Apr-1912, 5088 Waterloo Major by J Armiger Trollope
>> [performance RW1912-V2/279 composition
>> <https://complib.org/composition/147041> RW1912-V2/261 bellboard
>> https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1887155, reported false
>> RW1912-V2/279]
>> 3. T:Erdington, 13-Jul-1912, 5088 Cambridge S Major by J Carter
>> [performance RW1912-V3/36 composition
>> <https://complib.org/composition/145375> RW1912-V3/54 bellboard
>> https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1888964, report false The
>> Compleat Cambridge by Giles Thompson p43]
>> 4. T:Ashton under Lyne, 4-Sep-1915, 5060 Grandsire Cinques by Samuel Wood
>> [performance RW1915-V9/110 composition
>> <https://complib.org/composition/145988> RW1915/116 bellboard
>> https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1887157, reported false
>> RW1944/126]
>> 5. H: Birmingham, 27-Sep-1917, 5005 Stedman Caters by James E Groves
>> [performance RW1917-V12/314 composition
>> <https://complib.org/composition/146453> RW1917-V12/315 bellboard
>> https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1887139, reported false
>> RW1974/90]
>> 6. T: Aston, 15-Dec-1917, 5031 Stedman Caters by James E Groves
>> [performance RW1917-V12/402 composition
>> <https://complib.org/composition/146497> RW1917-V12/412 bellboard
>> https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1887142, reported false
>> RW1918-V13/61]
>> 7. T: Chesterfield, 2-Feb-1918, 5003 Grandsire Caters by George Hollis
>> [performance RW1918-V13/42 composition
>> <https://complib.org/composition/147037> RW1918-V13/46 bellboard
>> https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1887133]
>> 8. H: Birmingham, 4-Apr-1918, 5100 Stedman Cinques by James E Groves
>> [performance RW1918-V13/114 composition
>> <https://complib.org/composition/147304> RW1918-V13/223 bellboard
>> https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1888420, reported false
>> RW1918-V13/293]
>> 9. T: South Croydon, 3-May-1919, 5201 Grandsire Caters by E Maurice
>> Atkins [performance RW1919-V14/166 composition
>> <https://complib.org/composition/147382> RW1919-V14/171 bellboard
>> https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1888870, reported false
>> RW1919-V14/183]
>>
>> Felstead has 1, 2, 4, 6 & 9 recorded as false, but not 3 or 7. Pealbase
>> has 1, 2, 4, 6, 8 & 9 recorded as false, but not 3, 5 or 7.
>>
>> With respect to 5, John Pladdys 1974 letter to the RW reported the
>> composition as false, and provided his own arrangement which has been rung
>> a few times since. He also noted that a peal at Wednesbury on 17-Nov-1917
>> (RW1917-V12/370) used this composition (although he didn't say how he knew
>> it was the same composition - but might it be Association records rather
>> than an assumption). This Wednesbury peal is also not marked as false in
>> Felstead or Pealbase. I haven't added it to BellBoard yet either.
>>
>> With respect to 7, I can't find any previous report of this composition
>> and peal being reported false.
>>
>> I found many more false compositions without performance references, but
>> have no way of determining whether they have been rung, nor whether the
>> compositions above were rung again. All the true and false compositions
>> (and methods) published in the Ringing World in this period are included
>> within the Complib collections linked below:
>>
>> Collection title Type Library Entries Ratings
>> Ringing World (1911-V1) <https://complib.org/collection/10085> Mixed
>> Public 86  0.0
>> Ringing World (1912-V2) <https://complib.org/collection/10112> Mixed
>> Public 26  0.0
>> Ringing World (1912-V3) <https://complib.org/collection/10067> Mixed
>> Public 26  0.0
>> Ringing World (1913-V4) <https://complib.org/collection/10090> Mixed
>> Public 42  0.0
>> Ringing World (1913-V5) <https://complib.org/collection/10088> Mixed
>> Public 40  0.0
>> Ringing World (1914-V6) <https://complib.org/collection/10082> Mixed
>> Public 22  0.0
>> Ringing World (1914-V7) <https://complib.org/collection/10106> Mixed
>> Public 22  0.0
>> Ringing World (1915-V8) <https://complib.org/collection/10134> Mixed
>> Public 26  0.0
>> Ringing World (1915-V9) <https://complib.org/collection/11571> Mixed
>> Public 19  0.0
>> Ringing World (1916-V10) <https://complib.org/collection/11572> Mixed
>> Public 45  0.0
>> Ringing World (1916-V11) <https://complib.org/collection/11573> Mixed
>> Public 20  0.0
>> Ringing World (1917-V12) <https://complib.org/collection/11575> Mixed
>> Public 155  0.0
>> Ringing World (1918-V13) <https://complib.org/collection/11574> Mixed
>> Public 30  0.0
>> Ringing World (1919-V14) <https://complib.org/collection/10116> Mixed
>> Public 9  0.0
>>
>> Graham John
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