From john at jaharrison.me.uk  Sun Aug  9 10:17:17 2026
From: john at jaharrison.me.uk (John Harrison)
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2026 10:17:17 +0100
Subject: [Bell Historians] Bell frame survey
Message-ID: <Sd05949b87john@jaharrison.me.uk>

This appeal came with the latest Churches Conservation Trust  magazine.

Is ?2.5k a reasonable amount?  I assume it would include some pretty
specialist stuff like maybe a 3-D laser scan. 

-- 
John Harrison
Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Using 4t?2 and ARMX6, both running RISC OS

Taxation is the necessary means of paying for a civilised society. (Andrew Harrison)
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From john.eborbells at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 17:18:39 2026
From: john.eborbells at gmail.com (John Arthur)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2026 17:18:39 +0100
Subject: [Bell Historians] Bell frame survey
In-Reply-To: <Sd05949b87john@jaharrison.me.uk>
References: <Sd05949b87john@jaharrison.me.uk>
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Who are this firm and what experience/qualifications do they have? What
examples can they produce. Are they only producing drawings or are they
researching records to substantiate historical context/developments?

Are they providing a country wide for a set price? (or is that an extra?)

E.john Arthur

On Sun, 9 Aug 2026, 11:31 John Harrison via Bell-historians, <
bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk> wrote:

> This appeal came with the latest Churches Conservation Trust  magazine.
>
> Is ?2.5k a reasonable amount?  I assume it would include some pretty
> specialist stuff like maybe a 3-D laser scan.
>
> --
> John Harrison
> Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
> Using 4t?2 and ARMX6, both running RISC OS
>
> Taxation is the necessary means of paying for a civilised society. (Andrew
> Harrison)
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From gjclifton at btinternet.com  Sun Aug  9 18:19:49 2026
From: gjclifton at btinternet.com (Graham Clifton)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2026 18:19:49 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Bell Historians] Bell frame survey
In-Reply-To: <CAGc_5jFhfTkkwpqsLEDcLyvKO-=19fDEcxK8oLO_KLZpzFGGvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Sd05949b87john@jaharrison.me.uk>
 <CAGc_5jFhfTkkwpqsLEDcLyvKO-=19fDEcxK8oLO_KLZpzFGGvg@mail.gmail.com>
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Never heard of this before.



Graham

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Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Bell frame survey






   Who are this firm and what experience/qualifications do they have? 
What examples can they produce. Are they only producing drawings or are 
they researching records to substantiate historical 
context/developments?








    Are they providing a country wide for a set price? (or is that an 
extra?)










     E.john Arthur?












    On Sun, 9 Aug 2026, 11:31 John Harrison via Bell-historians, 
<bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk 
<mailto:bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk> > wrote:





    This appeal came with the latest Churches Conservation Trust? 
magazine.



  Is ?2.5k a reasonable amount?? I assume it would include some pretty

  specialist stuff like maybe a 3-D laser scan.



  --

  John Harrison

  Website http://jaharrison.me.uk <http://jaharrison.me.uk>

  Using 4t?2 and ARMX6, both running RISC OS



  Taxation is the necessary means of paying for a civilised society. 
(Andrew Harrison)

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From gtbartonbells at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 19:58:58 2026
From: gtbartonbells at gmail.com (Neal Dodge)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2026 19:58:58 +0100
Subject: [Bell Historians] Bell frame survey
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References: <Sd05949b87john@jaharrison.me.uk>
 <CAGc_5jFhfTkkwpqsLEDcLyvKO-=19fDEcxK8oLO_KLZpzFGGvg@mail.gmail.com>
 <b493605.130df.19fe789b469.Webtop.88@btinternet.com>
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It's not an actual quote/specific appeal but rather a usual general
fundraiser advert...'your donation could pay for x/y/z'

As for the amount, given the day rates for an ICON accredited conservator
which the CCT would want to use I suspect it's not far off.

Many Thanks
Neal Dodge

On Sun, 9 Aug 2026, 18:20 Graham Clifton via Bell-historians, <
bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Never heard of this before.
>
> Graham
>
> Sent via BT Email App
>
>
> From: John Arthur via Bell-historians <
> bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk>
> Sent: 9 August 2026 17:18:39 BST
> To: Bell Historians <bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk>
> Cc: John Arthur <john.eborbells at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Bell frame survey
>
> Who are this firm and what experience/qualifications do they have? What
> examples can they produce. Are they only producing drawings or are they
> researching records to substantiate historical context/developments?
>
> Are they providing a country wide for a set price? (or is that an extra?)
>
> E.john Arthur
>
> On Sun, 9 Aug 2026, 11:31 John Harrison via Bell-historians, <
> bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> This appeal came with the latest Churches Conservation Trust  magazine.
>>
>> Is ?2.5k a reasonable amount?  I assume it would include some pretty
>> specialist stuff like maybe a 3-D laser scan.
>>
>> --
>> John Harrison
>> Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
>> Using 4t?2 and ARMX6, both running RISC OS
>>
>> Taxation is the necessary means of paying for a civilised society.
>> (Andrew Harrison)
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bell-historians mailing list
>> Bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk
>> https://lists.ringingworld.co.uk/listinfo/bell-historians
>>
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