# [r-t] Extension of TDMMs

Richard Smith richard at ex-parrot.com
Sat Aug 14 17:06:35 UTC 2004

```Philip Saddleton wrote:

> >So, it appears the numbers don't increase as fast as might
> >be expected.  (This is no doubt due in part to the
> >indefinite extensions.)
>
> Yes - what my calculation was meant to represent was the chance of
> sporadic occurrences of regular methods, so the indefinite extensions
> ought to be excluded. I would expect similar probabilities from
> extending the irregular ones as well.

In which case they over-estimate the probabilty of it
working -- 1529 out of 103533 extensions sporadically work
on 8 bells and 505 on 10 bells.

> >Similarly, the five methods
> >that worked on 6, 28 and 52 may actually have stopped there.
>
> Presumably these extensions have something in common, or this seems a
> remarkable coincidence. My guess is that they do stop - I would expect
> the stages at which an indefinite extension has PB lead heads to be an
> arithmetic progression.

They're all mode-4 AB over mode-4 FG extensions.  The
methods in question are

&-3-45-5-3.2-4.5,2  Eminent Nick Lawrence S.
&-3-1-5-3.4-34.5,2  Ripple D.
&-3-1-5-3.4-2.5,2   Droitwich D.
&-3-4-2-3.4-34.5,2  Beverley S.
&-3-4-2-3.4-2.5,2   Surfleet S.

I checked Beverley and Surfleet further -- up to 100 bells
-- and it does appear to be an indefinite series: 6, 28, 52,
76, 100.  If you ignore the first step, it does form an
arithmetic progression.

This behaviour is surprisingly common.  Of the extensions I
looked at, I found 27 different seemingly indefinite
extension series.  Some of these were simple arithmetic
series: when expressed an+6, the series with a=2, 4, 6, 8,
12, 16, but most are more complicated:

Freq  Series
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918  4n + 6
464  2n + 6
136  4n + 6 (n != 1 mod 3)
100  6n + 6
76  2n + 6 (n != 2 mod 3)

58  12n + 6
49  6, 4n + 8
36  8n + 4
26  6, 12n + 16
18  6, 12n + 8

8  6, 14n + 10 ??
7  6, 6n + 10
6  6, 26, 50 ??
5  6, 24n + 28
4  4n + 6 (n != 4 mod 7) ??

3  6, 8n + 12
2  6, 24n + 20 ??
2  8n + 6 (n != 2 mod 3) ??
2  6, 12n + 14
2  6, 12n + 10

2  6, 8n + 10
1  6, 6n + 8
1  6, 4n + 8 (n != 2 mod 3)
1  16n + 6 ??
1  6, 8n + 12 (n != 2 mod 3)

1  4n + 6 (n != 7 (mod something?)) ??
1  2n + 6 (n != 1, n != 22) ??
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(Those marked '??' are more guesses than anything else.)

Richard

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