[r-t] RE: Method Review

[Samuel M. Austin]

I'm talking more about compositions than methods. You are right in what you 
are saying about method flow, for example a major method with dodges in 7-8 
'flows' more than a method with places in 7-8

I just think cru's are an outdated way of counting the music in the 
composition.
>From what other people are saying that particular cru's do sound nice, ( 
65478 was mentioned and 3578 I think) there are far better musical changes 
available to be aiming for 144crus.

Aye

Sam

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>From: "Richard Grimmett" <richard at grimmett.org>
>Subject: RE: [r-t] RE: Method Review
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>I reckon you are missing the point of music.  Music flows, and so do
>changes.  Grandsire Triples flows, all who can actually hear ringing
>surely must agree with this?  Stedman Triples flows.  Cambridge major
>flows (I know this is contentious).  Scientific triples doesn't.
>
>So what is 'flow'?  It’s the succession of changes.  Don't think of one
>change in its own right - its how it  comes up that’s important too.  I
>have never seriously tried to define what I mean by flow in this
>context, but I am very seriously convinced that it is a crucial
>ingredient to a method.
>
>After a peal of Scientific a few years ago I mentioned in the pub that I
>didn't like the music of the method.  Some bright spark told me that it
>had all the usual 5040 changes in it!  I pointed out that it’s the order
>that counts.
>
>Clarrie
>
>
>Sam:
> > A very subjective subject but...
> > At the end of the day, CRU's are just not musical.
> > Can someone explain to me why the vast majority of Surprise
> > Major ringers
> > and composers think that rows like XXXX4578 are musical?
> > I've been thinking about this for a while and I might
> > actually take pen to
> > paper and write an article about musical rows.
> > There are main types of musical row
> > The Round type - (4 runs and above)
> > Queens type - ( Melodic and harmonic changes )
> > and the Tittums type - (coursing music)
> > There are also rows which do not fall into any of those
> > catagories well -
> > e.g 6578.
> >
> > Any thoughts I'll be pleased to hear them and I'll get going
> > on writing this
> > artical
>
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