[r-t] 23-spliced specs

Fielding Ian I.Fielding at rbh.nthames.nhs.uk
Fri Jan 14 09:41:17 UTC 2005


As regards getting music from it, I guess it would be worthwhile to look at
where 5/6 are in relation to the tenors and then play around a bit - for
example Superlative as method 0 would be a good choice - Queens, Back
rounds, 7568's etc. Cambridge in a course with a CH xx56x or x6xx5 would
generate some 5678's off the front or Ashtead would generate a couple of
56/65 roll ups and the reverse off the front. Can you slot a few methods in
by hand in this way and then let the computer do the rest?

Glint

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Smith [mailto:richard at ex-parrot.com]
Sent: 12 January 2005 10:47
To: ringing-theory at bellringers.net
Subject: Re: [r-t] 23-spliced specs


Alex Byrne wrote:

> Richard wrote: ... but every method has a different initial four changes.
>
> I don't think there is any merit in this feature here.

OK.  That's good to know as it's really quite difficult to
get every method with a different start.  After about a
week's computer time, I had only found four such
compositions.

> This is brilliant fun
> if there's a change of method every lead, but the excitement on this plan
is
> only once per course. I'd like a 7-part of these methods please.

I assume someone has already produced 7-part 23-spliced
composition with this feature?

> Anyone had any bright ideas about music optimisation?

I think your suggestion of including the number of CRUs as a
term in the merit function is probably a good start.
(Sorry MBD -- suggest something else if you want!)

I'll try to do this in the next day or two.  (There had been
a technical problem stopping me from implementing this.
Hopefully that is resolved now.)

> I think this is what
> will determine which compositions are rung. I think the plan has excellent
> scope for bands wanting to ring 23-spliced without necessarily having the
> experience to ring (well) all the split-tenors faffing that usually comes
> with it.

I hadn't thought of it like that.  (To be honest, I'm still
a bit surprised that there's any non-theoretical interest in
it at all.)

I guess if you're looking at it as an easier way of ringing
23-spliced, having every lead different might be a bit
tricky.  Also, the methods that I have found so far leave
quite a bit to be desired from ease-of-ringing point of
view.  Compare it to Smith's 23, for example.  At least half
of the methods in Smith's are likely to be familiar already.

Richard

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