[r-t] Stedman Minor (Shipway's Campanologia)

Edward W Martin martinew at comcast.net
Mon Jun 13 02:41:01 UTC 2005

According to my photocopy, Book 1 page 106 gives the figures of Shipway's 
Principle (which he prefers should be confined to even numbers of bells, but 
nevertheless, gives figures for both odd and even)
For even numbers the place notation would be:
3N. 14. x 14 x 14 x 14. 3N. x.14 x 14 x 14
ie it's in two types of 8s not of 6s

In Book 3 he gives figures of peals of Major, Royal and Maximus but is shy 
of the extent of Minor
I think it might be a bit of a challenge to cook up a true 720 because I'm 
not convinced that the Principle allows for pairs of bells in 5-6 the way 
that Stedman Doubles does in 4-5 i.e. (I'm no mathematician so cannot 
express this in a whiz bang fashion) but in Doubles there are only two types 
of pairs that can ever come into 4-5 : a coursing pair or a non-coursing 
pair whereas in Minor you must have coursing pairs plus coursing pairs with 
one bell separating them plus coursing pairs with two bells separating them. 
i.e. three types of pairs with only an even number of eights to fit in...I 
don't know if this has any relevance in the grand order of things, it's just 
a gut feeling as they say

Best regards

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Samuel M. Austin" <combineharvestersam at hotmail.com>
To: <ringing-theory at bellringers.net>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:47 AM
Subject: [r-t] Stedman Minor (Shipway's Campanologia)

> Can anyone come up with a 720 (and maybe 540 too) of Stedman Minor as 
> printed in Shipway's Campanologia please?
> 123456   Quick Six
> 214365
> 124356
> 142365
> 412635
> 421653
> -----------
> 241635  Slow Six
> 426153
> 462135
> 642153
> 624513
> 264531
> The above is from memory so it may be wrong.
> Thanks
> Aye
> Sam
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