[r-t] Changes to decisions again

Philip Earis Earisp at rsc.org
Mon Jan 23 15:39:41 UTC 2006

"I'm not sure there's a particularly fundamental difference between
jump-changes and cylindrical"

This is clearly wrong in my view.  One can be described by a framework
of true permutations.  The other cannot.

> Anyway, there's never been any cylindrical rung, ever.
Yes there has:

I'm well aware of this link.  Like you, I'm also well aware of the
ringers. When I discussed this alleged performance with you some time
ago, we were both extremely sceptical (to say the least) that the band
had rung what was described.


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