# [r-t] Grandsire Triples (was old methods)

Philip Earis Earisp at rsc.org
Wed Jul 16 12:27:34 UTC 2008

```Eddie:
"Of course one can get a true 5040 of Grandsire triples without using singles - the judicious use of 5ths place bobs played against 3rds place bobs and 7ths place plain leads can break the q-set parity by linking two leads together instead of three"

Though on reflection this seems logical, I don't think I had seen any compositions like this before. Aquick look at Don's website shows two examples (below).  Have these both been rung before?

On a philosophical level I like these very much. I think this is because I really don't like to concept of a "single" in Grandsire being described as a call acting over two changes.  I think a call by definition can only act on a single row.

Of course, I wouldn't take the Woolley approach and try to "ban" conventional Grandsire, but I think compositions with "3.123" singles could be more consistently described (ie spliced).

5,040 Grandsire Triples
William Shipway
234567
532746  5
735624  5
467235  1
354726  2
753642  5
657234  5
426357  1
324765  5
653472  2
376524  3
453276  1
764325  2
537264  1
235476  5
432657  5
634725  5
256473  2
452367  5
734652  1
637245  5
x 672345  4
456237  2
5-part.
x is a bob made in 5ths place rather than 3rds place.

5,040 Grandsire Triples
Donald F Morrison (no. 2878)
234567  1  2  3  4  5
52643      -  -         (4)
53246   x               (5)
42635   -           -   (7)
46532         x         (4)
65432            -      (4)
63425      x  x  x      (6)
423756        -         (5)
Repeat eight times, calling x for [-]
in parts 3, 6 and 9.
x = 5ths as the treble hunts from 2 to 1.

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