[r-t] FCHs

[Fielding Ian]

OK, I actually meant symmetric about the lead end/ half lead.
Ian

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-----Original Message-----
From: ringing-theory-bounces at bellringers.net [mailto:ringing-theory-bounces at bellringers.net] On Behalf Of King, Peter R
Sent: 21 May 2010 12:03
To: ringing-theory at bellringers.net
Subject: Re: [r-t] FCHs

Or where the point of symmetry is not across the lead end/head. Eg Grandsire the lead starting 1643257 repeats rows from the 3rd lead of the plain course (this is not the same as just ringing the plain course backwards).

Peter

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ringing-theory-bounces at bellringers.net
> [mailto:ringing-theory-bounces at bellringers.net] On Behalf Of
> Fielding Ian
> Sent: 21 May 2010 10:21
> To: ringing-theory at bellringers.net
> Subject: Re: [r-t] FCHs
>
>
> My understanding is that you can only get internal falseness
> in asymmetric plain methods.
>
> Ian Fielding
>
> Chief Technician - Pharmacy Patient Services Manager
>
> 0207 352 8121 x 4591
>
> 07872 995464 (Mobile)
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> Bleep 7415
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ringing-theory-bounces at bellringers.net
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> Graham John
> Sent: 21 May 2010 09:21
> To: ringing-theory at bellringers.net
> Subject: Re: [r-t] FCHs
>
> MBD wrote:
>
> > It seems stranger to me, and needs more thought to confirm,
> > that internal falseness is avoided in most plain methods,
> > than that it is present in TD methods.
>
> Why? The rows where the treble is in the same position on the
> way down to
> the way up are related (transposed) in an identical way to
> the leadheads and
> leadends. If the leadheads and leadends are from distinct sets and are
> unique, then all the other rows must be too.
>
> Graham
>
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