[r-t] Spliced Cinques & Max

Roddy Horton rrhorton at btinternet.com
Tue Sep 21 21:46:21 UTC 2010


I'm not sure why changes of method should be restricted to any particular row. At practices at Beckenham recently I have been (attempting) to call touches of spliced Cambridge where the changes of method can occur at any backstroke. It is quite fun and usually fires out.

The comp below is from a few years ago and if one reads it one can see that we changed out of Bristol at the snap after the Wrong. Lucy was brilliant in steering us to over 5000 changes before we screwed up!

Roddy
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5073 Spliced Maximus and Cinques
(3180 Bristol Surprise, 1893 Stedman)

 Lucinda J C Reeve

 1234567890E   W					
 1235467890E   -                                        Bristol
 13579E24680     2.3.12.15.17.23.24 (24)                Stedman
 1342658790E     1.2.4.5.7.9s.12.14 (18)
 1E462937805     5.8.11s.14.16.20.22s.24s.25.26.28 (28)
(1E462937580)    1.					
 1E649728305   -                                        Bristol
 654321E0987     2.6s.7.9s.11.13s.16.20s.22s            Stedman
 1624E897530     3s.4.7s.8.10.13s.14.15.21.22 (24)
(1624E897053)    1.					
 164287E5930   -                                        Bristol
 324165879E0     3.8.9.10.12s.15.17s.18                 Stedman
 1624759380E     1s.4.8.9.13s.15.19.22s.24 (24)
(16247593E80)    1.					
 1642537890E   -                                        Bristol
 531246E9780     6.8.11.12.13.15s.18.21.22              Stedman
 23517486E90     1.3.9.10.12s.15.16.18.21
 1E536947820     3s.4.6.8.9.12.16.17
(1E536947280)    1s.					
 1E359768402   -                                        Bristol
 E0987654321     2s.5.6.7.10.13.17                      Stedman
 1264830579E     7.10.12s.15.18.20.21.22
(12648305E79)    1.					
 1246358709E   -                                        Bristol
 213546798E0     10s.11.12.13.15.16                     Stedman
(1325476)        2.3.6.12s.15s.16.17.19s		

 6 near-misses, Queens, Double Whittingtons, Back Rounds (on 11 and 12!)
 The Bristol comprises Roddy Horton's six most musical courses.

 Change from Bristol to Stedman occurs at the treble snap after the call Wrong, to the 3rd change of a Slow Six.
 Change from Stedman to Bristol occurs at the 2nd change of a Slow Six, which becomes the Bristol lead-head.

 Note from Roddy
 It is not possible to ring exactly 11 leads of Bristol between the Stedman as the Bristol must finish 
 with a call at Wrong, putting the tenor into 11ths! However, 2 changes later the tenor is in 12ths 
 resulting in 530 changes of Bristol between the Stedman. 
 The courses of Bristol selected (in the order that they are rung) are as follows:
 1234567890et
 123456tE0987
 190Et2345678
 1645237890Et
 164523tE0987
 1243658709Et
 
 We attempted this with Lucy calling it and a local band at St Martin in the Fields. Sadly 2 bells went over in 
 the last course but there was some stunning music.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stephen Beckingham 
  To: ringing-theory at bellringers.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:04 PM
  Subject: [r-t] Spliced Cinques & Max


  I've just been looking at one of the new additions on ringing.org - http://ringing.org/main/pages/peals/maximus/spliced#9289
  (composition also reproduced at the bottom of this message)


  The stedman and the cambridge both start and finish in different places within the lead/division. Do the CC approve of such things? I was under the impression (possibly misinformed) that changes of method were usually at the half-lead or lead-end, although I guess you sometimes get changes at other points in the lead in, say, TD Minor, but then at least the lead remains the same length.
  I've had a quick scan of the CC decisions and am none the wiser - any ideas?


  SJB




  5,015 Spliced Cinques and Maximus (3 methods)
  Maurice J Thurmott
1234567890ET   9 16 18        Stedman Cinques 
142365E9780T     (a)        
4123              s        |
3142           s  s  -     |
1342              s        |
2314           s  s  -     |A
3214              s        |
4231           s  s  -     |
2431              s        |          
21436587E90T          (b)  
1634258709ET          (c)            

               M  W  H        Cambridge Surprise Maximus
 423568709ET   s  s  -
 52346            s
(42365)        s  s                         

1243658709E              
42136578E90T          (d)     Stedman Cinques
123465                A
12436587E90T          (e)                       
                1  2  3  4    Grandsire Cinques 
324658709ET     -  s  -  -
53264           -  -  -  s
45362           -  -  -  s  
24563           -  -  -  s  |B
52463           -  -  -  -  |  
34265               2B                          
a=1,3,s8,s10,s12,18,21
b=s1,3,s8,s12,18,21
c=2,s5,s15,18
d=1,6,s13,s15,s19,22
e=s2,s7,s13,s15,18 Contains 2508 Stedman, 1320 Cambridge, 1187 Grandsire, with 3 changes of method. NB: 1243658709ET occurs at the Cambridge treble-snap after the Wrong; both Stedman changes of method start with a full slow six and finish at the 4th row of a Quick six.


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