[r-t] Hubbard, etc

Robert Bennett rbennett at woosh.co.nz
Wed Jun 20 11:03:10 UTC 2012


You are right regarding WMH. I was led astray by Hubbard's 10-part, where
the H are in complete sets of 3. 

What I should have said, is that touches with M and W only can be rung in
the other method just as well. 

But that comes back to your rule about breaking courses into only two



 On Wed 20/06/12 9:26 PM , edward martin edward.w.martin at gmail.com sent:
  On 19 June 2012 12:07, Robert Bennett  wrote:
 >  On Tue 19/06/12 7:31 PM , edward martin  sent:
 >  My theory is that if there are no more than two interruptions to an
 >  initially plain course then you'd be ok, more than that causes
 >  problems
 >  Ed
 > I think that is getting close to it.
 > I think that:
 >  (1) any touch which uses complete courses is adaptable between Plain
 > Bob and St.Simons.
 > (2) any touch which uses calls at W,M and H only is adaptable.
 > (3)most peals based on bob courses of St.Simons cannot be converted,
 > peals of Plain Bob Triples can't have more than 240 bobs (???).
 > (4) touches where the same course is cut into 2 parts,with the
 > parts rung backward and forward can be adapted. e.g Hubbard's
 > (5)long touches or peals where the same course is cut into 4 or 6
 > with the bits being rung alternately forward and backward may not be
 > adaptable.

 This is getting a tad tedious.
 My theory is not merely close, it's spot on

 comments on your points:
 (1) This is true
 (2) This is false. eg always call bobs at WMH in plain bob yields a
 touch of 5 courses; try to do this in St.Simons & you get a touch of
 2 courses.
 Bobs affecting the 7 (In, Out & 4ths) when a complete Q-set will
 certainly be ok provided that none of these three courses is
 interrupted again by more than one more bob.

 (3) (4) & (5)
 PLEASE realise that the 5040 is best set out in 360 plain course
 structures and that as far as the treble's leads are concerned, within
 any particular plain course, exactly the same rows will occur at
 treble's leads whether ringing Plain Bob or St.Simon's if there are
 no more than two interruptions to any of these initially plain
 courses then the result can be adapted (touches short of a full 5040
 may have different lengths ) otherwise the composition might well fall
 into several parts.


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