[r-t] Long lengths in more than one method

Philip Earis pje24 at cantab.net
Sun Dec 18 19:18:00 UTC 2016

There's an interesting article in the Bell News, 1882 (page 170) by Jasper
Snowdon entitled "Long Lengths in More than One Method".  I've reproduced
this below.

(For those who are unaware, scanned copies of the Bell News (as well as of
Church Bells and of early issues of the Ringing World are freely available
on the CC website - https://www.cccbr.org.uk/library/olpubs/. I
congratulate the library committee - it is great to see such positive,
tangible outcomes resulting from a CC Committee)

I've a couple of questions:

1) For the 1788 peal, is this the first long length peal on 8 bells in
more than one method, with truth constraints that we'd generally recognise
as true today?  (For the 1751 peal of Bob Major and Double Bob Major
mentioned in the article, there would have been repeated 8-bell rows).

2) What is "Tripple Bob Tripples" / "Wakefield Delight" triples ?

By Jasper W. Snowdon.

Several peals have been rung on seven and other higher numbers of bells in
which the total number of changes has been made up by peals or touches in
more than one method. As such performances have not been noticed in any of
my previous articles, I now propose to give a short account of such peals
that I have heard of in which the total number of changes has reached

The first peal of this description with which I am acquainted, is recorded
in the peal book of the Union Scholars and was rung by that Society at St.
Mary’s, Hillingdon, Middlesex, on Tuesday, April 9th, 1751. In this record
it states that a 5040 of Bob Major, which John Holt conducted, “was
completed immediately after ringing 5800 Double Bob Major, the whole time
being 7 hours and 30 minutes.”

On Tuesday, February 20th, 1787, eight of the Society of Change- Ringers
at Otley, Yorkshire, rang two whole peals of Grandsire Triples when the
time taken to complete the 10,080 was 6 hours and 22 minutes. On the
printed notice, which gives the names of the ringers and other
particulars, it states that this was “the first set that ever completed
the above in time and course in England.”

>From an old MS. note book supposed to have belonged to John Martin, of
Leicester, I find that a peal of 10,080 changes, in two seven-bell
methods, was rung at Wakefield, on Monday, May 12th, 1788. The note, which
is as follows, is probably a copy of a newspaper paragraph :—

“On Monday last was rung at Wakefield by the ringers of that place a new
peal of Tripple Bob Tripples, called ‘Wakefield Delight,’ consisting of
5040 changes in eight courses compleat. The same set of ringers without
changing a man or setting a bell began another peal of Oxford Single
Tripples in twelve courses, consisting of 5040 changes, and called
‘Wakefield Surprise.’ Both these peals, consisting of 10,080 changes, were
performed, including the raising and ceasing the bells, in 7 hours and 1
minute and were rung with great exactness and distinction, an instance
never before done in the kingdom. What adds to the singularity of the
performance is, there were two fathers, five sons, five brothers, four
cousins, one uncle, one nephew, yet not more than eight persons and only
two names.”

Here, therefore, we have not only an account of the performance, but a
complicated conundrum in relationship placed before us!

On November 5th, 1821, the Society of change-ringers at Huddersfield, with
Benjamin Thackrah of Dewsbury, rang 5040 of Treble Bob Triples and 5152 of
Superlative Surprise Major, making a total of 10,192 changes in 5 hours
and 56 minutes. This, which was certainly a capital performance, concludes
the list of such peals of which I have been able to find particulars.

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