[r-t] Opinions sought

Alexander E Holroyd holroyd at math.ubc.ca
Wed Jan 16 19:28:14 GMT 2019


Yep, they are both spliced.  I wouldn't be particularly motivated to 
ring either, I would prefer just two extents.

I guess someone might say A is too trivial because you only change at 
rounds.

Try as I might, I cannot bring myself to care.  If people want to ring 
silly things and/or describe them in odd ways, why is it any concern of 
mine?

On 16-Jan-19 5:49 AM, Simon Gay wrote:
> I would be happy to say that they are both spliced. I would find it 
> artificial to have to choose that just one of them is spliced. I would 
> prefer to ring B.
> 
> I suppose what you are getting at is that if you omit the singles from 
> B, you have two extents each of a single method, and that would not 
> traditionally be described as spliced. The question is whether it makes 
> sense to convert a multi-extent block from non-spliced to spliced 
> without introducing any changes of method.
> 
> In a world of multi-extent blocks, I would be reasonably happy to 
> describe B as spliced even without the singles.
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> 
> On 16/01/2019 13:39, Don Morrison wrote:
>> Consider the following two callings of surprise minor. Two questions:
>>
>> 1) Are they spliced? That is are they both, neither, or just one of 
>> them, and, if just one of them, which?
>>
>> 2) If you were somehow further constrained to call exactly one of them 
>> spliced, which would you pick as the “more like spliced”?
>>
>>
>> Calling A:
>>
>> 1,440 (Spliced?) Surprise Minor (2 methods)
>> 2345  W  H
>> __________
>> 4235     -  IIIII.
>> 3425     -  IIIII.
>> 2345     -  IIIII.
>> 5243  -     CCC.CC
>> 3542  -     CCC.CC
>> 4235  -  -  CCC.CC.
>> 5432  -     CCC.CC
>> 2534  -     CCC.CC
>> 3425  -  -  CCC.CC.
>> 5324  -     CCC.CC
>> 4523  -     CCC.CC
>> 2345  -  -  CCC.CC.
>> __________
>> Contains 1,080 Cambridge and 360 Ipswich, with 1 change of method
>> and all the work of both methods for every bell.
>>
>>
>>
>> Calling B:
>>
>> 1,440 (Spliced?) Surprise Minor (2 methods)
>> 2345  W  H
>> __________
>> 4523  -  -  IIII.I.
>> 3425  -     IIII.I
>> 2534  -  -  IIII.I.
>> 4235  -     IIII.I
>> 3542  -  -  IIII.I.
>> 2435  -  s  IIII.I.
>> 3524  -  -  CCC.CC.
>> 4325  -     CCC.CC
>> 2543  -  -  CCC.CC.
>> 3245  -     CCC.CC
>> 4532  -  -  CCC.CC.
>> 2345  -  s  CCC.CC.
>> __________
>> Contains 720 each Cambridge and Ipswich, with 1 change of method
>> and all the work of both methods for every bell.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Don Morrison <dfm at ringing.org <mailto:dfm at ringing.org>>
>> No one is the salt of the earth; and no one, at some moment in their
>> life, is not.     — Jorge Luis Borges, “Fragments from an Apocryphal
>>                                           Gospel,” tr Stephen Kessler
>>
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