[r-t] Wrong Home Wrong
richard at ex-parrot.com
Sat Sep 28 22:13:26 BST 2019
Alexander E Holroyd wrote:
> Can someone help me with a historical question? When (and by whom) was
> it first understood that the standard minor calling WHW*3 is true?
It was discovered by a member of the College Youths with the
initials R.R., most probably in the 1650s. "R.R." is widely
believed to be Robert Roan, master of the CYs in 1652, but
that remains speculation, albeit plausible speculation.
> In particular, when was it known that it gives an in-course extent of a
> plain method or an extent of a TD method with regular lead ends but not
> plain bob lead end order? (Similarly for IOI*3 and not m group).
This is an open question. It's certainly my view that
"R.R." and his immediate contemporaries did not appreciate
this. However I think it would have been well known by the
end of the 17th century.
> For plain bob lead end order one can say that it is equivalent to the
> standard 60 of grandsire doubles. Where does that originate? Tintinalogia?
It's first recorded in Tintinnalogia, whose first edition
was printed in 1668, and it is extremely clear from the
description given in both Tintinnalogia and Campanalogia
that the standard 360 of Plain Bob Minor (then called
Grandsire Bob) was derived from the standard 60 of Grandsire
Doubles. It is frequently assumed that both were composed
by "R.R.", and this may be so, but there is no real evidence
that this is the case and no compelling reason to assume so.
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