[Bell Historians] Ebbw Vale

Fri Dec 12 14:23:42 GMT 2003

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I'm afraid we don't keep QP records, and even Alan Buswell's database only
goes back to around 1966. The only way of finding out would be to trawl
through the RWs of the time.

As as footnote, in June 1962 the infamous Tudor Edwards turned Ebbw Vale
tenor in to a peal of Yorkshire in 2-59 - surely a waste of such excellent
bells!

Andrew Bull

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From: Andrew Wilby [mailto:andrew at w...]
Sent: 12 December 2003 14:07
To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Ebbw Vale

Having consulted another member of the touring party of 1968 who confirms
the story we think it was a quarter peal.
That would fit with APC's habits and inclinations at the time.

Are the QP records available?

I would hate to think that ,not only were we gullible in believing George
Thoday, but APC was pulling everyones leg as well.

andrew
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From: Andrew Bull <mailto:a.bull at s...> 
To: 'bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com'
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Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: [Bell Historians] Ebbw Vale

Sorry to spoil a good story, but the Llandaff & Monmouth peal database
(which contains details of ALL peals rung at Association towers) shows that
Pat Cannon rang three peals at Ebbw Vale - in 1968, 1970, 1971. He only rang
the tenor once, to Superlative on 24 October 1970, in 3 hours 22 minutes. He
never called a peal there.

While serving in South Wales during and after WW2, he rang peals at
Bridgend, Caerphilly, Cardiff, Pentre, Llanfrechfa and Llenelly (Gilwern),
calling all but the Cardiff peal. He did call a fast peal of Bob Major on
the heavy and difficult eight at Pentre.

Andrew Bull
(Peal Recorder, Llandaff & Monmouth D.A.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Wilby [mailto:andrew at w...]
Sent: 11 December 2003 22:40
To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bell Historians] Ebbw Vale

Jim Hedgecock: <I remember there being a device to count the number of times
that the 
tenor had struck - but it was 1971 when I rang there.>

There is a story about the counter.....

Pat Cannon was serving in S Wales during WW2 when the bann was lifted. 
He took a band to Ebbw Vale and rang a peal of Plain Bob Major I think, but
in a very quick time... possible less than 3 hours.

Anyway the local tower captain took the view that Cannon had left a course
or two out of this peal and had the counter made and fixed to the tenor so
that he could check in future. He was probably right.

There is another story about another band that included Cannon ringing a
peal there in the 60's. 
A certain Mr Thoday calculated that the peal would include his 1 millionth
row in peal ringing and also that it would be a 65 roll-up.
I think we might have been a touch gullible but, never the less, George was
a big man with the stats so we worked out what the counter would read at the
millionth row and set off. 

As we struck the landmark, a certain Mr Bonham on the 6th, mouth wide open,
staring at the counter all agog, missed his dodge an consequently wrecked
the row.

Thoday was incandescent. He ranted on about how many peals he had carried
someone through and how now he had wrecked the highlight of his career... or
some such rubbish.

All very funny and did we laugh? You were allowed to enjoy yourself in
peals in those days.

awrw

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