[Bell Historians] Clock Chimes - information and requests for details

Chris Pickford c.j.pickford at t...
Thu Jun 5 09:45:02 BST 2003


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In answer to Jim, yes!

St.Helens, Beecham's Factory, Lancs: Hour and quarter bells, for Beecham's =
Factory, St.Helens, per Potts of Leeds, 2 Feb.1888. 3-1-16, 4-2-18, 6-1-11,=
13-1-23, 19-3-1 (47-2-13). =A3249.19.8=20

Another one for the chimes list, of course (assuming they're still there)

CP
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From: jimhedgcock=20
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Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:26 PM
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For nineteen years I lived within the sound of the carillon at Lowe=20
House in St. Helens and the clock chime (Westminster Quarters)at=20
Beacham's Pharmaceutical Works in St. Helens. The Lowe House bells=20
are some of the best heavy Taylor bells that I have heard. The=20
smaller bells are not so good, and at one time there was talk of=20
recasting where necessary. However, I believe that the instrument is=20
almost derelict now. Does anyone have details of the Beacham bells?--


- In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "Chris Pickford"=20
<c.j.pickford at t...> wrote:
> David Cawley mentioned Hove (gone), Luton, and Leicester. Can add=20
some details:
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> Leicester Town Hall bells are Mears & Stainbank 1876, supplied=20
through E.T. Loseby, the Leicester clockmaker. Weights 3-2-0, 3-3-15,=20
4-2-0, 6-3-7, 20-3-2. One of the Leicester ringers (John Jelley, I=20
think), told me the only time he ever heard Ernest Morris swear was=20
when he described those bells!
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> Luton are Gillett & Johnston, 1936: 1 26.125 E 3-2-14, 2 28.5 D 4-2-
17, 3 31.625 C 6-0-17, 4 41.125 G 12-2-15, 5 61.5 C 45-2-20. Very=20
fine, as David says. I have seen these bells.
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> Hove: These were Gillett & Bland 1881/2 (see Elphick). There were=20
12 bells, the largest 60" and 36-1-7 and the smallest 30" 6-0-24. I=20
have the weights and diameters of the others from the Corydon foundry=20
records - can post them if people want them.
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> A long time since I heard Cardiff, but they are definitely "old=20
style" and I'm not sure I'd call the tone superb - but certainly=20
quite grand and powerful
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> CP
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> From: JohnBaldwin=20
> To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com=20
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:06 PM
> Subject: RE: [Bell Historians] Clock Chimes - information and=20
requests for details
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> Cardiff City Hall: Clock chime 9-3-0; 13-0-14; 16-2-14; 34-1-0=20
Hour bell: 51-0-14 G&J 1903 Superb tone. (cost: "=A31277 +=A3120 for=20
fixing")
> Regards.
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> John Baldwin
> (029) 2055 4457
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Pickford [mailto:c.j.pickford at t...]
> Sent: 04 June 2003 11:29
> To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Clock Chimes - information and=20
requests for details
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> I can - thanks to Taylors - provide answers to come of Andrew's=20
queries. Perhaps Mike Chester could now add details to the chimes=20
list?
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> Ossett, Town Hall, Yorks: Five clock bells, largest 7-2-16,=20=20
per Potts of Leeds, Jan.1908=20
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> Dewsbury, Town Hall, Yorks: Clock bells per Potts of Leeds, 20=20
Feb.1889. Bells 5-1-23, 8-1-1, 11-0-14, 24-2-11 and 35-0-12 (84-2-5).=20
Oak frame, fittings etc. =A3560.11.1.
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> Batley, Carnegie Free Library, Yorks: Four quarter bells, per=20
Potts 1906. 24", 26=BD", 29.625", 36.625", and hour bell (Warner -=20
[possibly 1879 - can anyone confirm?]) 53.875", 3-3-15, 5-0-20, 6-2-
11, 10-3-4.
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> Huddersfield, Cooperative Society, Buxton Road, Yorks: Four=20
clock bells, largest 9-0-5, per Potts of Leeds, Nov.1904=20
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> Cleckheaton, Town Hall, Yorks: Bells for Cleckheaton Town Hall,=20
per Potts of Leeds, 20 Sept.1892 - 5-1-7, 5-3-20, 7-0-14, 14-3-15 and=20
21-1-17 (total 54-2-17). Cost =A3273.5.2.=20
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> Keighley, Institute, Yorks: Clock bells, per Potts of Leeds, 28=20
March 1892. Five bells - no destination - 4-1-12, 5-2-20, 7-1-1, 15-1-
25 and 25-1-11 (total 58-0-13) - daybook shows for Keighley Institute=20
(weights tally)=20
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> Middlesbrough Town Hall, Yorks: Clock bells through Robert=20
Richardson, clock manufacturer, Middlesbrough, 4 July 1889 - 5-0-1, 6-
0-8, 7-2-5, 17-1-17, 47-1-6 (total 83-1-9); fixing the bells for=20
Richardson invoiced separately on 20 July 1889.=20
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> Thornaby, Town Hall, Yorks: Five clock bells, largest 7-3-26,=20=20
per Potts of Leeds, July 1908
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> Also at Thornaby - South Stockton [also known as Thornaby on=20
Tees], Yorks: Hours and four quarter bells for South Stockton, per=20
Potts of Leeds, 13 Nov.1891 - 1-2-3, 2-1-7, 3-2-16, 6-0-18 and 8-1-11=20
(total 21-3-27). Cost =A3115 9s.=20
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> This leaves Lindley Clock Tower and Hartforth Hall unaccounted=20
for from Andrew's list. The above details are incomplete only because=20
I had specifically sought details of work for Potts (when editing the=20
Potts clock catalogues for publication by the AHS) and regarding=20
heavy bells (for the Great Bells list now on the Keltek website). But=20
this information should fill quite a lot of gaps
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> Morley Town Hall has a Warner clock chime of five bells,=20
largest 35 cwt, according to their catalogues. I've assume these are=20
1895 (the date of the Town Hall), though I'd ve very keen to have=20
full details of date, diameters and (if available) weights.
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> Don't know anything about Dewsbury Co-Op
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> The whole Town Hall thing is covered in an excellent book on=20
Victorian and Edwardian Town Halls by Colin Cunningham (RKP, 1981) -=20
a comprehensive acount, and well illustrated (but nothing on bells).=20=20
Colin taught me Latin at school (about as succesfully as Paul=20
Cattermole taught me maths!) and later went on to teach architectural=20
history with the OU. His father used to be Rector of Hanbury=20
(Ambridge and Worcestershire's finest Taylor eight) and did have a go=20
at ringing. He also printed Paul Cattermole's little booklet on The=20
Bells of Bale
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