[Bell Historians] Clock Chimes - information and requests for details

jimhedgcock jameshedgcock at h...
Wed Jun 4 23:26:28 BST 2003



For nineteen years I lived within the sound of the carillon at Lowe 
House in St. Helens and the clock chime (Westminster Quarters)at 
Beacham's Pharmaceutical Works in St. Helens. The Lowe House bells 
are some of the best heavy Taylor bells that I have heard. The 
smaller bells are not so good, and at one time there was talk of 
recasting where necessary. However, I believe that the instrument is 
almost derelict now. Does anyone have details of the Beacham bells?--


- In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "Chris Pickford" 
<c.j.pickford at t...> wrote:
> David Cawley mentioned Hove (gone), Luton, and Leicester. Can add 
some details:
> 
> Leicester Town Hall bells are Mears & Stainbank 1876, supplied 
through E.T. Loseby, the Leicester clockmaker. Weights 3-2-0, 3-3-15, 
4-2-0, 6-3-7, 20-3-2. One of the Leicester ringers (John Jelley, I 
think), told me the only time he ever heard Ernest Morris swear was 
when he described those bells!
> 
> Luton are Gillett & Johnston, 1936: 1 26.125 E 3-2-14, 2 28.5 D 4-2-
17, 3 31.625 C 6-0-17, 4 41.125 G 12-2-15, 5 61.5 C 45-2-20. Very 
fine, as David says. I have seen these bells.
> 
> Hove: These were Gillett & Bland 1881/2 (see Elphick). There were 
12 bells, the largest 60" and 36-1-7 and the smallest 30" 6-0-24. I 
have the weights and diameters of the others from the Corydon foundry 
records - can post them if people want them.
> 
> A long time since I heard Cardiff, but they are definitely "old 
style" and I'm not sure I'd call the tone superb - but certainly 
quite grand and powerful
> 
> CP
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: JohnBaldwin 
> To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:06 PM
> Subject: RE: [Bell Historians] Clock Chimes - information and 
requests for details
> 
> 
> Cardiff City Hall: Clock chime 9-3-0; 13-0-14; 16-2-14; 34-1-0 
Hour bell: 51-0-14 G&J 1903 Superb tone. (cost: "£1277 +£120 for 
fixing")
> Regards.
> 
> John Baldwin
> (029) 2055 4457
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Pickford [mailto:c.j.pickford at t...]
> Sent: 04 June 2003 11:29
> To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Clock Chimes - information and 
requests for details
> 
> 
> I can - thanks to Taylors - provide answers to come of Andrew's 
queries. Perhaps Mike Chester could now add details to the chimes 
list?
> 
> Ossett, Town Hall, Yorks: Five clock bells, largest 7-2-16,  
per Potts of Leeds, Jan.1908 
> 
> Dewsbury, Town Hall, Yorks: Clock bells per Potts of Leeds, 20 
Feb.1889. Bells 5-1-23, 8-1-1, 11-0-14, 24-2-11 and 35-0-12 (84-2-5). 
Oak frame, fittings etc. £560.11.1.
> 
> Batley, Carnegie Free Library, Yorks: Four quarter bells, per 
Potts 1906. 24", 26½", 29.625", 36.625", and hour bell (Warner - 
[possibly 1879 - can anyone confirm?]) 53.875", 3-3-15, 5-0-20, 6-2-
11, 10-3-4.
> 
> Huddersfield, Cooperative Society, Buxton Road, Yorks: Four 
clock bells, largest 9-0-5, per Potts of Leeds, Nov.1904 
> 
> Cleckheaton, Town Hall, Yorks: Bells for Cleckheaton Town Hall, 
per Potts of Leeds, 20 Sept.1892 - 5-1-7, 5-3-20, 7-0-14, 14-3-15 and 
21-1-17 (total 54-2-17). Cost £273.5.2. 
> 
> Keighley, Institute, Yorks: Clock bells, per Potts of Leeds, 28 
March 1892. Five bells - no destination - 4-1-12, 5-2-20, 7-1-1, 15-1-
25 and 25-1-11 (total 58-0-13) - daybook shows for Keighley Institute 
(weights tally) 
> 
> Middlesbrough Town Hall, Yorks: Clock bells through Robert 
Richardson, clock manufacturer, Middlesbrough, 4 July 1889 - 5-0-1, 6-
0-8, 7-2-5, 17-1-17, 47-1-6 (total 83-1-9); fixing the bells for 
Richardson invoiced separately on 20 July 1889. 
> 
> Thornaby, Town Hall, Yorks: Five clock bells, largest 7-3-26,  
per Potts of Leeds, July 1908
> 
> Also at Thornaby - South Stockton [also known as Thornaby on 
Tees], Yorks: Hours and four quarter bells for South Stockton, per 
Potts of Leeds, 13 Nov.1891 - 1-2-3, 2-1-7, 3-2-16, 6-0-18 and 8-1-11 
(total 21-3-27). Cost £115 9s. 
> 
> This leaves Lindley Clock Tower and Hartforth Hall unaccounted 
for from Andrew's list. The above details are incomplete only because 
I had specifically sought details of work for Potts (when editing the 
Potts clock catalogues for publication by the AHS) and regarding 
heavy bells (for the Great Bells list now on the Keltek website). But 
this information should fill quite a lot of gaps
> 
> Morley Town Hall has a Warner clock chime of five bells, 
largest 35 cwt, according to their catalogues. I've assume these are 
1895 (the date of the Town Hall), though I'd ve very keen to have 
full details of date, diameters and (if available) weights.
> 
> Don't know anything about Dewsbury Co-Op
> 
> The whole Town Hall thing is covered in an excellent book on 
Victorian and Edwardian Town Halls by Colin Cunningham (RKP, 1981) - 
a comprehensive acount, and well illustrated (but nothing on bells).  
Colin taught me Latin at school (about as succesfully as Paul 
Cattermole taught me maths!) and later went on to teach architectural 
history with the OU. His father used to be Rector of Hanbury 
(Ambridge and Worcestershire's finest Taylor eight) and did have a go 
at ringing. He also printed Paul Cattermole's little booklet on The 
Bells of Bale
> 
> CP
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