[Bell Historians] Clock Chimes - information and requests for details

[jimhedgcock]

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I haven't been up to St. Helens in the last five years since the last 
of my close family died.
I understood that the tower, bells and clock had a preservation order 
on them but that the 'factory' could be demolished.

In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "Chris Pickford" 
<c.j.pickford at t...> wrote:
> In answer to Jim, yes!
> 
> St.Helens, Beecham's Factory, Lancs: Hour and quarter bells, for 
Beecham's Factory, St.Helens, per Potts of Leeds, 2 Feb.1888. 3-1-16, 
4-2-18, 6-1-11, 13-1-23, 19-3-1 (47-2-13). £249.19.8 
> 
> Another one for the chimes list, of course (assuming they're still 
there)
> 
> CP
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: jimhedgcock 
> To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Clock Chimes - information and 
requests for details
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For nineteen years I lived within the sound of the carillon at 
Lowe 
> House in St. Helens and the clock chime (Westminster Quarters)at 
> Beacham's Pharmaceutical Works in St. Helens. The Lowe House 
bells 
> are some of the best heavy Taylor bells that I have heard. The 
> smaller bells are not so good, and at one time there was talk of 
> recasting where necessary. However, I believe that the 
instrument is 
> almost derelict now. Does anyone have details of the Beacham 
bells?--
> 
> 
> - In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "Chris Pickford" 
> <c.j.pickford at t...> wrote:
> > David Cawley mentioned Hove (gone), Luton, and Leicester. Can 
add 
> some details:
> > 
> > Leicester Town Hall bells are Mears & Stainbank 1876, supplied 
> through E.T. Loseby, the Leicester clockmaker. Weights 3-2-0, 3-3-
15, 
> 4-2-0, 6-3-7, 20-3-2. One of the Leicester ringers (John Jelley, 
I 
> think), told me the only time he ever heard Ernest Morris swear 
was 
> when he described those bells!
> > 
> > Luton are Gillett & Johnston, 1936: 1 26.125 E 3-2-14, 2 28.5 D 
4-2-
> 17, 3 31.625 C 6-0-17, 4 41.125 G 12-2-15, 5 61.5 C 45-2-20. Very 
> fine, as David says. I have seen these bells.
> > 
> > Hove: These were Gillett & Bland 1881/2 (see Elphick). There 
were 
> 12 bells, the largest 60" and 36-1-7 and the smallest 30" 6-0-24. 
I 
> have the weights and diameters of the others from the Corydon 
foundry 
> records - can post them if people want them.
> > 
> > A long time since I heard Cardiff, but they are definitely "old 
> style" and I'm not sure I'd call the tone superb - but certainly 
> quite grand and powerful
> > 
> > CP
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: JohnBaldwin 
> > To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:06 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Bell Historians] Clock Chimes - information and 
> requests for details
> > 
> > 
> > Cardiff City Hall: Clock chime 9-3-0; 13-0-14; 16-2-14; 34-1-
0 
> Hour bell: 51-0-14 G&J 1903 Superb tone. (cost: "£1277 +£120 
for 
> fixing")
> > Regards.
> > 
> > John Baldwin
> > (029) 2055 4457
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Pickford [mailto:c.j.pickford at t...]
> > Sent: 04 June 2003 11:29
> > To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Clock Chimes - information 
and 
> requests for details
> > 
> > 
> > I can - thanks to Taylors - provide answers to come of 
Andrew's 
> queries. Perhaps Mike Chester could now add details to the 
chimes 
> list?
> > 
> > Ossett, Town Hall, Yorks: Five clock bells, largest 7-2-
16,  
> per Potts of Leeds, Jan.1908 
> > 
> > Dewsbury, Town Hall, Yorks: Clock bells per Potts of Leeds, 
20 
> Feb.1889. Bells 5-1-23, 8-1-1, 11-0-14, 24-2-11 and 35-0-12 (84-2-
5). 
> Oak frame, fittings etc. £560.11.1.
> > 
> > Batley, Carnegie Free Library, Yorks: Four quarter bells, 
per 
> Potts 1906. 24", 26½", 29.625", 36.625", and hour bell (Warner - 
> [possibly 1879 - can anyone confirm?]) 53.875", 3-3-15, 5-0-20, 6-
2-
> 11, 10-3-4.
> > 
> > Huddersfield, Cooperative Society, Buxton Road, Yorks: Four 
> clock bells, largest 9-0-5, per Potts of Leeds, Nov.1904 
> > 
> > Cleckheaton, Town Hall, Yorks: Bells for Cleckheaton Town 
Hall, 
> per Potts of Leeds, 20 Sept.1892 - 5-1-7, 5-3-20, 7-0-14, 14-3-15 
and 
> 21-1-17 (total 54-2-17). Cost £273.5.2. 
> > 
> > Keighley, Institute, Yorks: Clock bells, per Potts of 
Leeds, 28 
> March 1892. Five bells - no destination - 4-1-12, 5-2-20, 7-1-1, 
15-1-
> 25 and 25-1-11 (total 58-0-13) - daybook shows for Keighley 
Institute 
> (weights tally) 
> > 
> > Middlesbrough Town Hall, Yorks: Clock bells through Robert 
> Richardson, clock manufacturer, Middlesbrough, 4 July 1889 - 5-0-
1, 6-
> 0-8, 7-2-5, 17-1-17, 47-1-6 (total 83-1-9); fixing the bells for 
> Richardson invoiced separately on 20 July 1889. 
> > 
> > Thornaby, Town Hall, Yorks: Five clock bells, largest 7-3-
26,  
> per Potts of Leeds, July 1908
> > 
> > Also at Thornaby - South Stockton [also known as Thornaby 
on 
> Tees], Yorks: Hours and four quarter bells for South Stockton, 
per 
> Potts of Leeds, 13 Nov.1891 - 1-2-3, 2-1-7, 3-2-16, 6-0-18 and 8-
1-11 
> (total 21-3-27). Cost £115 9s. 
> > 
> > This leaves Lindley Clock Tower and Hartforth Hall 
unaccounted 
> for from Andrew's list. The above details are incomplete only 
because 
> I had specifically sought details of work for Potts (when editing 
the 
> Potts clock catalogues for publication by the AHS) and regarding 
> heavy bells (for the Great Bells list now on the Keltek website). 
But 
> this information should fill quite a lot of gaps
> > 
> > Morley Town Hall has a Warner clock chime of five bells, 
> largest 35 cwt, according to their catalogues. I've assume these 
are 
> 1895 (the date of the Town Hall), though I'd ve very keen to have 
> full details of date, diameters and (if available) weights.
> > 
> > Don't know anything about Dewsbury Co-Op
> > 
> > The whole Town Hall thing is covered in an excellent book 
on 
> Victorian and Edwardian Town Halls by Colin Cunningham (RKP, 
1981) - 
> a comprehensive acount, and well illustrated (but nothing on 
bells).  
> Colin taught me Latin at school (about as succesfully as Paul 
> Cattermole taught me maths!) and later went on to teach 
architectural 
> history with the OU. His father used to be Rector of Hanbury 
> (Ambridge and Worcestershire's finest Taylor eight) and did have 
a go 
> at ringing. He also printed Paul Cattermole's little booklet on 
The 
> Bells of Bale
> > 
> > CP
> > 
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