[Bell Historians] Derwent Woodland

[David Cawley]

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I have looked at a copy of the JT report of 1933 and it is not specific as =
to the nature of the frame and fittings - it deals only with the parts whic=
h needed attention - viz the bearings (Heywood lubricators), clapper joints=
(bushed with lignum vitae), 2nd stay (type not stated), pulleys and "All t=
he ironwork of the fittings and of the framework is red with rust."

As the bells were installed in 1901 it is reasonable to suppose that they h=
ad cast-iron headstocks etc and probably "Hastings" stays. The wording of t=
he report led me to anticipate an iron frame as the tower was indeed very s=
mall, compare Bamford-in-the-Peak with which the parish was united.The old =
steel ring at Bamford were in a timber frame (or rather three two bell fram=
es one above the other) in a similarly very small tower. However, it may be=
that JT & Co were referring to the tie rods, angles &c in the "strong oak =
frame" GAD refers to; the job book will no doubt reveal all.

Vic Hallam's book has a picture of the tower being blown up. BBC2's Learnin=
g Zone had a thing last year about supplying water to Sheffield, and there =
was a fair bit about the building of the Ladybower, even showing (silent) f=
ootage of the last service in Derwent Church, and shots of it being dismant=
led down to the lower courses and leaving the tower and spire. At High Wate=
r, the water was just below the string-course beneath the paired 2-light be=
lfry windows. Following the 1947 drought the tower was blown up and there w=
as some sad film of that.=20

The ruins are still visible in drought conditions only. The Ladybower is no=
w a fine and beautiful part of the landscape: I remember being driven acros=
s it by Harry Parkes with some bells put in at Hathersage. On a cloudy and =
gloomy day, though, it does have a haunted atmosphere.=20=20=20

DLC
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Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:39 PM
Subject: [Bell Historians] Derwent Woodland


Thanks to those who have so far replied to my queries regarding Derwent W=
oodlands. I confess I had forgotten that we had discussed it before!

>From looking at DLCs earlier email and at GAD and Pat Halls' books on Der=
byshire bells, we appear to have the following information about the ring o=
f 4 bells, all cast by Taylor's in 1901:

1. JOHN TAYLOR & CO * FOUNDERS * LOUGHBOROUGH * LEICESTERSHIRE *
(31", 6-0-17, C)

2. JOHN TAYLOR & CO * FOUNDERS * LOUGHBOROUGH * LEICESTERSHIRE * / (vine =
border)
(32 1/2", 6-1-27 in B)

3. (inscription unknown)
(36 1/4", 8-2-16, A)

4. COLONEL J.C. CAVENDISH GAVE US AND THE TAYLORS OF LOUGHBOROUGH MADE US=
1901
(40 1/2", 12-3-6, G)

DLC states that the bells were fitted with cast iron stocks and frame, ho=
wever, GAD states that the bells were hung in a "strong English oak frame"

As regards the fate of the bells, GAD states that the treble went to St P=
hilip's Chaddesden to become the single bell. I forgot to photocopy this en=
try from the book so don't have it to hand (I'm using the copies from work =
- most of my bell books are at my parents' house several hundred miles away=
). The 2nd went to Scarcliffe to become 3/5 (now 6/8). This bell is listed =
under the Scarcliffe entry. The two bell crowns at Scarcliffe are actually =
from two of Scarcliffe's own bells, not those from Derwent Woodlands.

The Derwent Woodlands entry in the book states that both of the back two =
went to Chelmorton to make a treble and tenor. However, the Chelmorton entr=
y only mentions one bell, recast into the treble. The tenor there was a rec=
ast of an existing bell at Chelmorton. Part of the inscription on the trebl=
e reads:

I WAS RECAST BY TAYLORS OF LOUGHBOROUGH 1960 FROM A BELL OF DERWENT GIVEN=
BY COL:J.C. CAVENDISH 1901

Clearly, therefore, this was cast from the Derwent tenor.

>From all of the above, there would appear to be the following outstanding=
questions:

1) What happened to the 3rd bell? Did it in fact go to Chelmorton as scra=
p to help pay for the work there?

2) What were the frame and fittings? The two descriptions appear contradi=
ctory. There are a number of pictures of the tower (which appears to have s=
tood at the north-western corner of the church) on the web, and it appears =
very small - would the bells have fitted in a timber frame or would it have=
needed to be a cast iron H frame?

3) Were parts of the frame or any of the fittings reused anywhere after r=
emoval?

I will try to get a copy of the book on the creation of the reservoir. Lo=
oking on the web it appears that it is easily and fairly cheaply available.

So, over to DLC and GAD!

David

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