[Bell Historians] CCC Bells & Clocks Committee

Mark markregan at FLeEOPgzkUa8TYxRgw73zsVtIMeG9rAz_VkTQNLCzK96Vz5RrP8wVK0eHdBCAoh7IDOlkNYGY_5WEZPwxvf0qQ.yahoo.invalid
Wed Aug 30 19:59:39 BST 2006

I don't agree with that. 

Any members of an organisation should be able to say how they were
appointed. And want to. If they don't then I do think they are hiding
something. Perhaps that their position was not gained on merit or
competence. I've seen too much of this sort of thing in the workplace and in
ringing too.

I had a  really good meeting with the CCC after the fiasco of the last big
bell seminar. I think the CCC didn't know that there are many other
competent people out there who don't get a look in for these positions. If
the CCC doesn't know then you can't blame them for appointing incompetents.
Same with DACs. I think we suffer from able people not having time to do
these jobs and a lack of management and performance reviews. It's simple to
solve. Though many incumbents would panic at their performance being
assessed. If they were good then they wouldn't. Perhaps we should lobby
better. Problem is who are "we"? 


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On Behalf Of David Bryant
Sent: 30 August 2006 19:44
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Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] CCC Bells & Clocks Committee

> What's wrong with being open about how any appointment is made? 

Nothing wrong with it, but asking existing members of said committee to 
explain in an open forum how they were appointed (when those asking 
generally know anyway) doesn't achieve anything. Perhaps I 
misinterpreted Robert's original email, but it seemed to be working up 
to the demanding questions to members of the committee which have 
already been aired in various places.

> Advertising or recommending candidates, interviews and a half decent
> performance management structure, and all should work well. Surely all
> appointments should be open and subject to scrutiny without referring 
> freedom of information.

Yes, agreed - but these are suggestions which can only be acted on by 
the CCC. If people have strong views why not write to the CCC secretary 
with them? If enough people express the same view there might be a 
chance of agreement being reached.


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