Cheltenham [was old peals of ten and twelve]

[Andrew Bull]

I'm interested to see Cheltenham listed as a possible "untouched"
ten/twelve, as there is actually little information available as to the
current state of the bells.

The weights quoted for the bells are actually based on the "as supplied"
weights of 1823/1833. The weights quoted by John Rudhall (courtesy of Chris
Pickford) for the back ten are:

 1.  6-0-19
 2.  5-2-3
 3.  6-0-12
 4.  6-2-2
 5.  7-0-3
 6.  8-1-3
 7.  9-2-26
 8. 12-0-15
 9. 15-0-25
10. 22-2-16

Comparing these with the various details given for these bells is
interesting. For a start, the back four have lost their canons, and yet
22-2-16 is still quoted for the tenor. Nowhere have I seen definitive
details of exactly what work was carried out by Whitechapel in 1911. A local
newpaper article of the time quoted on the tower website states that the
bells were retuned in 1911; if so, is there a revised set of weights? Does
anyone have the details?

Andrew Bull




  -----Original Message-----
  From: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Pickford
  Sent: 12 June 2006 12:46
  To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Old peals of ten and twelve



  Pretty sure that the score on the ones you mention is:
  Ashton - yes, almost certainly retuned
  Oxford - not retuned, so far as I know
  Chelsea - not retuned when rehung in c.1893, nor since
  Leeds (Kent) - not significant retuning, although Alf Bowell may have made
some minor adjustments

  Cheltenham (certainly as a ten) and All Saints Worcester (the back ten -
though now retuned) are fairly good examples - reasonably intact. Wrexham
(retuned) too

  Just a few hasty thoughts on this

  CP

  Bill Hibbert <bill at uF8-92a6kFf7P32rYVMfsxri9CRGaupfpFEy2f40hid1_3lB29zO4HguiMqeUJPDWFoMQACAcIcnp_w.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
    After being away from it for too long, I have now resumed work on my
    bell acoustics investigations. As part of this I am interested in old
    peals of ten and twelve (pre 1850-ish) which were substantially all
    provided as a set, where the trebles still survive and have not been
    retuned.

    For twelves, I have recorded Painswick and Mancroft. As regards other
    twelves, I have some questions:
    * were Ashton under Lyne retuned in 1927?
    * were Oxford retuned in 1952?
    Are there any other twelves I should consider? (I can't find any more
    on Michael Wilby's list).

    As regards tens, I know of St Luke's Chelsea. Have Leeds (Kent) been
    tuned? (the only candidate I can find on Kent bells). Are there any
    other lists I should look at? Does anyone know of other untuned old
    tens?

    Many thanks,

    Bill H





  
           
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