[Bell Historians] Re: St Paul's and Chelsea
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Tue Oct 2 00:48:49 BST 2007
St. Paul's are a good ring of twelve. Use your ears!
On 10/1/07, alantaylor at 5oe9hY0y2xNaW4Ie2JvfY1No5uAj3GvHkgkWPli7SILuAxp5gDQLfxHM2VPZjeo1BNLeo3zAIsbg8Yzvn1jDM8uveukJ.yahoo.invalid <alantaylor at 5oe9hY0y2xNaW4Ie2JvfY1No5uAj3GvHkgkWPli7SILuAxp5gDQLfxHM2VPZjeo1BNLeo3zAIsbg8Yzvn1jDM8uveukJ.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> This is what we will probably end up with. A new lighter ten below and
> the old hung on beams higher up. The Chancellor will have the options and he
> will decide.
> The present bells can't be hung lower in the tower. All of the floors,
> bell chamber, clock room and ringing room are stone. The present bells are
> in an H frame with 8 bells below and 2 above.
> *From:* bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistori
> ans at yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *davidhird_uk
> *Sent:* 01 October 2007 09:05
> *To:* bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [Bell Historians] Re: St Paul's and Chelsea
> So what do you actually want to do at St Lukes?
> Sounds like it is a case for hanging the current bells for chiming
> high in the tower to satisfy the conservationists and hanging a new
> 10 lower down the tower. Wish they had done that at Durham.
> Are the bells actually too heavy or are they just hung too high up
> in a frame which doesnt resolve the forces as well as it could?
> --- In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com <bellhistorians%40yahoogroups.com>,
> <alantaylor at ...> wrote:
> > I am extremely glad that they are the only complete pre-tune
> harmonic 12 to
> > survive. I am also thankful that they are unique.
> > If you think they should be listed and preserved, I would suggest
> that they
> > be put on display in the church yard. Then hang a musical peal of
> bells in
> > the tower. Just imagine a sound such as the bells of York Minster
> > from the tower. I can't imagine that the St Paul's ringers would
> mind. As
> > long as the tenor is heavy they would be happy.
> > We have the same problem with the bells of St Luke's Chelsea. They
> > dreadful; they are too heavy for the tower and therefore go badly.
> But we
> > are told they should be preserved as they are historically
> interesting as a
> > Thomas Mears 2nd peal of ten. I wonder why Thomas Mears 2nd bells
> > getting rare. Although the last report from The Council for the
> Care of
> > Churches, said they felt the bells should be preserved as a peal
> of TM2nd
> > ten bells. But, as the trebles were so awful, new bells could be
> cast and
> > hung in their place. But the old trebles should be hung dead in
> the tower.
> > This breathtaking logic seems to miss the point, that with new
> trebles, the
> > ring would no longer be a TM2 ten. And, the bells would still be
> too heavy
> > for the tower, and therefore the tower would still sway and this
> > therefore make the bells tricky to ring. St Luke's is to go to the
> > of a consistory court.
> > There is often the same debate over pipe organs. It doesn't matter
> what it
> > sounds like, or if it is capable of accompanying a congregation or
> > it's old and therefore should be preserved.
> > Alan
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