[Bell Historians] Have you voted yet?

[Andrew Wilby]

Sam is quite right. These replies are not votes and are not weighed.
To be taken any notice of at all they need to address the "material issues"

Peter Rivet may better to be able to help with this but the issue is, I 
believe, whether or not the removal of the bells is counter to the 
interests that the Grade 2* Listing seeks to preserve.

If it were only Grade 2 then the the external appearance would only be 
the issue.
The star upgrades the status and in this case from what I have read 
mainly concens the internal construction of the nave itself.

Therefore it can be argued that the bells are not the focus of the 
listing and in any case are not original having been recast.

It follows therefore for the Committee that on balance, taking into 
consideration all the other factors such as problems in making them 
safe, the fact they they will never be sounded again et,c that it is 
reasonable to agree to their removal.

If it hasn't been done already, someone with the time might research a 
few precedents where bells have been removed from listed buildings to 
demonstrate that this is not a unique situation even if this Planning 
Authority hasn't had one recently.

Andrew

On 05/05/2010 09:45, Sam0austin wrote:
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>
> I've seen your submission Richard. If anyone else is going to vote 
> then I suggest they could be more imaginative with their comments.
>
> "Bells are meant to be heard" & "They should ring to the Glory of God" 
> seem to have been done to death by ringers, and I'm not sure if that 
> will 'wash' with Stoke Council; remember they are civ servants and may 
> not be ringers, musicians or Christian.
>
> If someone knows how these planning departments work, I'm sure a 
> paragraph or two's worth of guidence for 'would-be' voters would be 
> welcomed.
> Aye
>
> Sam
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 5 May 2010, at 09:31, Richard Grimmett <richard at Ju1jcgvnVecXaQdZ-NLgbCmrl5e4oRRz8eJq2IRMkW7E_kJcPWUEk4q-AJU_MxeyqagVWGJIjhulZ20.yahoo.invalid 
> <mailto:richard at Ju1jcgvnVecXaQdZ-NLgbCmrl5e4oRRz8eJq2IRMkW7E_kJcPWUEk4q-AJU_MxeyqagVWGJIjhulZ20.yahoo.invalid>> wrote:
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>> Robert Lewis wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > At 19:22 08/04/2008, you wrote:
>> > Time is running out. 7th May is the deadline.
>> >
>> > No, not the general election ...
>> >
>> > To save Hanley Bells:
>>
>> They don't make it easy to check your submission is logged. I cannot
>> find mine. I submitted weeks ago and received an acknowledgement about
>> a fortnight later, but I cannot find it on the site.
>>
>> Clarrie
>>
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