[Bell Historians] Vandalls?

La Greenall laalaagrr@googlemail.com [bellhistorians] bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
Tue Apr 9 19:53:20 BST 2019


If you have any of the names of these ringers, it might be worth 
checking to see whether they were Cambridge alumni. If a group of them 
wanted to found a bellringing club, then such a generosity might well be 
appropriate. If you don't have their names, can any name in the parish 
registers of this date be found amongst the alumni? Or was this church 
frequented by them? What inns or meeting rooms were nearby?

Vandals are (so to speak) free (of social conventions), and could 
notionally have been a current nickname for uni students at the time, 
when not studying. Therefore to make vandals of the wheels was to make 
them free too - i.e. to allow them to spin without restriction - but one 
problem is that it seems the wheels already existed(?) and a second is 
the stays added to them - countering their free movement.

Lawrence

On 09/04/2019 19:39, La Greenall wrote:
> One odd thing is the two ways 18s is written. Surely xviijs would be 
> paid by scholars, and 18s by everyone else? Therefore, on this alone, 
> perhaps it was a mutual exchange of goodwill - could the ringing group 
> have just been founded and wanted to 'bless' the bells they were to ring?
>
> I know this doesn't answer the crucial point - sorry!
>
> Lawrence
>
> On 09/04/2019 15:56, gareth at charollais.co.uk [bellhistorians] wrote:
>>
>> I’ve been puzzling over an entry in the churchwarden accounts for 
>> Great St Mary’s in Cambridge. The puzzle is that the ringers paid 
>> half the cost of the work. This seems to have been a unique 
>> occurrence. All earlier and later costs of work to the bells, a least 
>> up to the 20th century, are paid for by the parish. What prompted 
>> their generosity? I am wondering if the work involved might have been 
>> to make the wheels/fittings more suitable for change-ringing, rather 
>> than the usual essential repairs. The date is 1629/30 so it might fit 
>> in with Tintinnalogia’s suggested timescale for the introduction of 
>> change-ringing. However, I can’t really make sense of what work was 
>> done. Can anyone help with an interpretation, especially of what 
>> vandalls were in this context?
>>
>>
>> The entry reads: “Item for making vandalls of all the five wheeles & 
>> an Iron Rowle for the tenure and new stays to all the wheeles which 
>> amounted to 36 shillings whereof the Schollers that were Ringers paid 
>> 18s and the parish paid the other half which was xviijs”
>>
>> Any suggestions gratefully received
>>
>> Gareth
>> 
>

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