[Bell Historians] Preshute - all bells added to NBR as 'On Pres List' between 2009 & 2015 (same for Westbury)

David Godwin dwhgodwin at aol.com
Sun Jan 31 14:51:02 GMT 2021

 I have no idea who sits on the CBC clocks and bells committee these days - perhaps someone could enlighten us??
It is very interesting to look at the people on the Bells committee and then compare it to say the organ committee.For the organ committee there are five members (over half of the membership) who are organ builders i.e. professionals with day to day experience of working with organs, for the clocks committee there is one member who is a clockmaker, so again a professional with day to day experience of clocks, yet on the bells committee none of its members are bell hangers or work day to day in the trade. How has this been able to happen? have any of the bell hangers in the country been asked to be on the committee? other committees seem to be able to have professionals on them without conflict of interests. Does this give us an insight into the inconsistent and contradictory advice the bells committee give out on occasions?
David Godwin

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That said, I am curious to know how these Wiltshire rings have crept into the lists – and why equally eligible rings elsewhere haven’t yet made it. I suspect that someone in Salisbury Diocese has been quite astute and ahead of the game

That's easy - because it was the opinion of someone, that they should be listed!
I remember being at a CBC bell advisors conference some years back, where they laid out their plans for 'expanding' the scope of bells which they considered worthy of preservation. That included 'modern rings of exceptional tonal quality' among a number of other things. I remember Alan Hughes pointing out that it they continued along those lines, they could end up listing the majority of the bells in the UK, and he expressed concerns over the knock-on effect on the trade!
I believe the Wiltshire rings were listed with this review in mind.
I find that the attitude of the CBC towards work on listed bells is really inconsistent these days. It states in their 'code of practice' that "a ring of bells should sound balanced and in tune". They have however, completely contradicted that in their advice to parishes. 
Often faculty applications insist that the CBC is consulted on work to listed bells. Their response is normally "The CBC feels that the parish have not made a good enough case for us to consider"  I have lost count of the number of times I have read this line. The last few of their replies that I have seen are also riddled with factual errors (which is a shame). I remember their attitude towards the bells at Catworth, Cambridgeshire, they said that a peal of bells which contained two bells of the same note would make a "characterful ring" - this resulted in a fine sounding medieval bell being removed from the peal and hung dead along side. They have recently written to the parish of South Wraxall, in Wiltshire, stating that they not support some minimal tuning of the 3 of the 6 bells, to bring them into a true musical scale. Hopefully the chancellor has seen sense on this one...
When I first had dealings with the CBC, you could rely on their expertise to give balanced advice - these days they appear to have inexperienced staff who prefer to push conservation beyond all else. I have no idea who sits on the CBC clocks and bells committee these days - perhaps someone could enlighten us??
With all good wishes,
Matthew #yiv2744275227 filtered {}#yiv2744275227 filtered {}#yiv2744275227 p.yiv2744275227MsoNormal, #yiv2744275227 li.yiv2744275227MsoNormal, #yiv2744275227 div.yiv2744275227MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv2744275227 a:link, #yiv2744275227 span.yiv2744275227MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2744275227 a:visited, #yiv2744275227 span.yiv2744275227MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2744275227 span.yiv2744275227EmailStyle17 {font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv2744275227 .yiv2744275227MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv2744275227 div.yiv2744275227WordSection1 {}_______________________________________________
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