[Bell Historians] FW: Dove Web Contact: St Mary the Virgin, Parham, Suffolk

[Richard Offen]

“Come My Bride In My Garden”

 

Richard

 

From: Bell-historians [mailto:bell-historians-bounces at lists.ringingworld.co.uk] On Behalf Of Neal Dodge
Sent: Friday, 11 February 2022 6:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] FW: Dove Web Contact: St Mary the Virgin, Parham, Suffolk

 

In case it helps the actual inscription reads 

"Veni Sponsa Mea In Ortum Meum" 

 

Many thanks 

Neal Dodge 



-------- Original message --------
From: Richard Offen <richard.offen at iinet.net.au>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022, 22:13
To: Bell Historians Mailing List <bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] FW: Dove Web Contact: St Mary the Virgin, Parham, Suffolk

It looks more like a version of a verse from the Song of Solomon (2:10) than a reference to getting a bell up. 

Richard

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> On 11 Feb 2022, at 1:49 am, Tim Jackson <tim at timjackson.email> wrote:
> 
> Please see below.
> 
> Tim 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Cottrell [mailto:j.c.cottrell at btinternet.com] 
> Sent: 09 February 2022 21:47
> To: Tim Jackson
> Subject: Re: Dove Web Contact: St Mary the Virgin, Parham, Suffolk
> 
> Tim, may I ask a question on pre-full circle ringing terminology? I
> understand that full circle ringing started in the 16th century. Our c1299
> bell has a Latin inscription that is thought to translate to "Come, my
> bride, to my rising/beginning/garden".  I know a full circle bell is raised
> before being rung in a method and therefore 'to my rising' might be
> considered the most likely of the 3 options for a bell inscription. Is there
> any evidence that pre-full circle ringing involved the terminology of
> raising a bell at any stage? Please do feel free to pass this question on to
> your fellow Ringing World bell historians if you are not familiar with this
> rather obscure area! Best wishes, John 
> 
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